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    Nethereal's Avatar
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    Deviously Enchanted
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Lets' just put an end to this persistent Big Lie, at least regarding Sages.
    Any Sage that only ever does what you say above, in all of the content -- never using Dyskrasia I/II, for example -- doesn't understand their kit or is just being lazy.

    Dyskrasia I/II is DPS-positive over everything but Phlegma whenever you can hit two targets. Unlike Phlegma, Dyskrasia is spammable. Accordingly, it should be used in trash pulls, when there are two bosses close together, or when the boss summons ads, especially tankable ads that can be grouped up.

    Toxikon is problematic because it's a pain to build addersting and it's not usually DPS positive, but because Dosis requires a cast time and Phlegma and Dykrasia are point-blank-range AoE's, Toxikon finds it's use when you have to move more than slidecasting will permit, and can't be close enough to the target(s) to use Phlegma (if off CD) or Dyskrasia. Because doing any DPS is DPS positive compared to not doing any at all.

    Your supposed Sage DPS rotation might be good against a practice dummy.
    It might be good in simple fights like The Navel.
    But in a lot of encounters, what you advocate Sages should do is something only ignorant or lazy Sages would do.
    The intellectual dishonesty is staggering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Someone
    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
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    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    The intellectual dishonesty is staggering.
    It's because they're just a troll. They're trying to be bombastic to start arguments.

    Don't respond to them, don't quote them, just ignore them
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    It's because they're just a troll. They're trying to be bombastic to start arguments.

    Don't respond to them, don't quote them, just ignore them
    The problem is that is something like some of their posts are the latest ones and someone new from outside as in not a healer main that is tired of SE's crap and is still ignorant to the state of the role comes in, then all they see is a post that claims everything is fine and we're all just whiners.

    So I generally try to make sure that this doesn't happen and they get the right idea without reading through 60+ pages by dissecting a couple of idiotic statements.
    Now let's see how long it takes until a certain individual comes up with the brilliant "See, you're just a bunch of whiners that want an echo chamber!" argument. I'm more than ready to hop into that discussion.
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