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    Player Vryn's Avatar
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    Vryn Thorn
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    Lich
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SeverianLyonesse View Post
    Gonna nitpick and say that's not a sign of androgyny so much as effeminateness.

    That said, still accurate. However, when I compare it to a game like GW2, where I can look like a sexy macho man in many different ways, I am forced to be a liondaddy to have decent pecs and quads.

    I still don't dislike the character designs in this game, and I appreciate that we have many skimpy clothing options. Still, by design, I do wish it didn't disproportionately fetishize women and let me objectify my gender.
    It is a sign of androgyny that masculinity and feminity are two poles on a spectrum. Androgeny is when it's at value 0 and doesn't have sex characters. So, for example, you don't see men with boobs in this game or wide hips.

    They design disproportionality because there is a disproportionate amount of the player base who play as females, and most men and women are perverts because they are human and we like sex.

    However, when it comes to the male models in-game, you can more easily objectify them through glamour than create a typically masculine man with a beard. We needed to get Ardberts face in-game to get decent stubble, but it's a Japanese game, so their version of masculinity might be a low T version to the point that they can't grow a simple beard.
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    Vav2021's Avatar
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    Vavil Veneth
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    Diabolos
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    Bard Lv 57
    Quote Originally Posted by Vryn View Post
    It is a sign of androgyny that masculinity and feminity are two poles on a spectrum. Androgeny is when it's at value 0 and doesn't have sex characters. So, for example, you don't see men with boobs in this game or wide hips.

    They design disproportionality because there is a disproportionate amount of the player base who play as females, and most men and women are perverts because they are human and we like sex.

    However, when it comes to the male models in-game, you can more easily objectify them through glamour than create a typically masculine man with a beard. We needed to get Ardberts face in-game to get decent stubble, but it's a Japanese game, so their version of masculinity might be a low T version to the point that they can't grow a simple beard.
    Strange enough, my very first complaint uppon playing the game was that "All the races are too pretty." I shrugged it off, thinking that the male elves are supposed to look beautiful like always, male catboys are supposed to be cute, but all races either have cute/pretty-ish faces with only one horribly ugly one, or none at all. even the Roegadyn seem to have primarily pretty faces with one "Oh god what the hell is that" face.

    I would sell blood if it meant getting more masculine traits, like Cid.
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    Klytania's Avatar
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    Klytania Moanmoore
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vav2021 View Post
    Strange enough, my very first complaint uppon playing the game was that "All the races are too pretty." I shrugged it off, thinking that the male elves are supposed to look beautiful like always, male catboys are supposed to be cute, but all races either have cute/pretty-ish faces with only one horribly ugly one, or none at all. even the Roegadyn seem to have primarily pretty faces with one "Oh god what the hell is that" face.

    I would sell blood if it meant getting more masculine traits, like Cid.
    They need to add a lot more faces in general. I'd say double the available amount for each race. Basically everyone looks the same to me
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