Frontline is Hot garbage.

[YukikoKurosawa]

Winning in frontlines just amounts to whether or not your team will throw the match straight out of the gate. That is all it comes down to at this point. Are you on a team full of people who actually want to win or who just want to get a quick loss for their daily completion.

[Eno_R]

as of late 2023 I can say as a person that isn't into PVP its still awful.

I got hyperfixated on wanting that mount back in 2019, 4 1/2 years ago now and i'm still not really closer by any stretch.

32 wins now out of the 180 games which isn't a lot but several bouts of losing streaks in a row really takes it out of you even in a "Just 1 win every Onsal Hakair day would be enough right?" I'm on a 5 game losing streak today so far, felt like typing in here of hopes of excising this anxiety demon crawling up my spine. Many of my Hiatus' from FF14 have been related to me realizing Onsal Hakair is a thing, and that mount I can't have exists. and there I go torturing myself again.

try as I might. No amount of "Git Gud" toxicity is possible, I suck at pvp and don't enjoy it, but what choice do I have if I want that mount?
If that specific mount was obtainable by any other means i'd go for it in a heartbeat.

[Elfidan]

try as I might. No amount of "Git Gud" toxicity is possible, I suck at pvp and don't enjoy it, but what choice do I have if I want that mount?
If that specific mount was obtainable by any other means i'd go for it in a heartbeat.

I'm sorry you aren't enjoying what is most likely the best version of frontline at the moment. I too wish it was better. However, if you have the gil, I will point out you can buy a Red version of this mount which was made available through PVE content. Hopefully things start to look up for your side foray into PVP.

[Eno_R]

I'm sorry you aren't enjoying what is most likely the best version of frontline at the moment. I too wish it was better. However, if you have the gil, I will point out you can buy a Red version of this mount which was made available through PVE content. Hopefully things start to look up for your side foray into PVP.

Thanks, sadly I've never been a fan of pvp, only reason I ever get drawn in when FF14 is concerned is the rewards (Wolf marks were easy to get and a lot of the clothes and gear looks great, but i've gotten most of what i've wanted through endless failure now)

Frontline has come a long way and its gotten better by far, my chances for winning as a member of the Flames has leapt from "Maelstrom always wins unless Adders do" to a statistically better "your team doesn't matter as you are now in a random group, that should be 1 in 3? unless you're terrible at pvp"

and as for the Red version of the mount I wish I could settle and grab it instead. I've considered it, but I preferred the metal coloring over Red, I don't have 13 Million to spare, and given how I can't handle the stress of Pvp I'd have equally as bad a time trying to learn High-End Duty content to obtain it legit from the Faux commander.

[SpritePR]

Thanks, sadly I've never been a fan of pvp, only reason I ever get drawn in when FF14 is concerned is the rewards (Wolf marks were easy to get and a lot of the clothes and gear looks great, but i've gotten most of what i've wanted through endless failure now)

Frontline has come a long way and its gotten better by far, my chances for winning as a member of the Flames has leapt from "Maelstrom always wins unless Adders do" to a statistically better "your team doesn't matter as you are now in a random group, that should be 1 in 3? unless you're terrible at pvp"

and as for the Red version of the mount I wish I could settle and grab it instead. I've considered it, but I preferred the metal coloring over Red, I don't have 13 Million to spare, and given how I can't handle the stress of Pvp I'd have equally as bad a time trying to learn High-End Duty content to obtain it legit from the Faux commander.

Well it wouldn't be much of a reward if you didn't have to put in some effort for it.

The options are:

Grinding Onsal for 100 wins.

Doing the unreal for a couple of weeks.

Grinding gil passively for a bit.

[IDontPetLalas]

Thanks, sadly I've never been a fan of pvp, only reason I ever get drawn in when FF14 is concerned is the rewards (Wolf marks were easy to get and a lot of the clothes and gear looks great, but i've gotten most of what i've wanted through endless failure now)

Frontline has come a long way and its gotten better by far, my chances for winning as a member of the Flames has leapt from "Maelstrom always wins unless Adders do" to a statistically better "your team doesn't matter as you are now in a random group, that should be 1 in 3? unless you're terrible at pvp"

and as for the Red version of the mount I wish I could settle and grab it instead. I've considered it, but I preferred the metal coloring over Red, I don't have 13 Million to spare, and given how I can't handle the stress of Pvp I'd have equally as bad a time trying to learn High-End Duty content to obtain it legit from the Faux commander.

You know, reading your comment I'd say that the issue is less FL, but more you- which I feel you realize. I'm in no way trying to criticize you, nor am I saying that FL doesn't have its share of issues.

I just wanted to share that years ago, I was playing a PvP game and I was so nervous that I avoided some parts of the game. I was fortunate enough to have a friend who was one of the best PvPers, and dueled me (while my hands were literally shaking). it wasn't an overnight change, but I did improve, in fact I got onto his static (not that I was ever as good as him!).

So the whole point, is that trying to struggle alone is quite disheartening, and it's very hard to improve that way. Try to find a friend, there's a Discord as well, and it's amazing what some feedback can do. You may even enjoy it one day.

[Mayhemmer]

Winning in frontlines just amounts to whether or not your team will throw the match straight out of the gate.

Or, more often, whether or not one of the other two teams throws their braincells into a river and just bum-rushes your team the entire match, oblivious to the fact that they're in third or second and completely ignoring first place. It happens so, so, so often in my experience. The whole adherence to the 3-team design (is one of the many design philosophies that) needs to be axed; more often than not, people just find it frustrating.

[Lyreia]

This is not a casual thing, this is a kind of grief that ensure that the match ends quickly. Most people really don’t care about the outcoming of the match, since this perfect game tends to reward mediocrity, so they just go blocking the other losing team so they won’t “disturb” the winning one.
Despicable and a shame, but you can thanks devs for this, since they let the losers still get their exp and rewards.