Yoshi P? Your bias is showing

[Myon88]

These SMN buffs don't really address the core weakness of the job at all, it always has been and still is the worst caster in CC.

Its niche is strong aoe pressure, but without the ability to convert this to actual kills all this amounts to is padding on the scoreboard. This is especially true in higher level play, where teams don't make rookie mistakes like bunching up together. Strong single target burst and hard cc (like stuns, or silences) is what wins matches, and right now SMN is one of the worst performing jobs in this regard.

[Petite]

Keep the damage boosts to fire spells, revert them for ice spells. Ice spells should do substantially less damage than fire spells, because ice is the control element, fire is the damage element.

Hello??

Fire already does more damage through their dots. No BLM would use Ice anymore if it went back to 8K. Might as well remove it if you think that's a good idea, holy S!

[Lymberey]

Keep the damage boosts to fire spells, revert them for ice spells. Ice spells should do substantially less damage than fire spells, because ice is the control element, fire is the damage element. It didn't really matter before, but now that everything else in BLM's kit has been improved, it's a design issue that needs to be addressed.

Control and damage should never be the same thing, they should always be separate.

Ice always do substantially less dmg than Fire, no reason to make it even weaker.
Fire and Ice do not stack, they are already seperated.

You know, you cannot go both ways by saying that Fire is very viable, but ice have to deal a lot less dmg than fire when it already does.
Or perhaps you came to agree that Fire is not that viable as the damage element?

[Gserpent]

Hello??

Fire already does more damage through their dots. No BLM would use Ice anymore if it went back to 8K. Might as well remove it if you think that's a good idea, holy S!

Wait, I thought everyone said dots suck and burst damage and CC is the only thing that matters. Did that change? Did people accept dots as damage now?

[Ransu]

The CC is better, but paradox has two charges now so it doesnt hurt to apply the dots as well.

[Petite]

Wait, I thought everyone said dots suck and burst damage and CC is the only thing that matters. Did that change? Did people accept dots as damage now?

They must now that SE has overbuffed Flare/Freeze's base damage. Else they don't care about balance.

A buff to Fire's dot would have been a much better option than what we got anyway.

BLMs will demolish people's mana all by themselves during their 1 minute recast LB as each of the 6 Flares they get are now almost a pot's worth of HP and can AOE.

[Moonlite]

Is it to early to hate on black mages yet? And every match tonight has had one in it.

[IsaacMerquise]

Is it to early to hate on black mages yet? And every match tonight has had one in it.

Not at all, it's beyond busted. It's like they gave every buff they were going to give to all the jobs that were struggling to BLM and called it a day.

[JanVanding]

Wait, I thought everyone said dots suck and burst damage and CC is the only thing that matters. Did that change? Did people accept dots as damage now?

Some DoTs were always good, borderline busted.

RDM melee combo being able to just straight kill by itself because of the ludicrous DoT ticks (thankfully toned down)

NIN Goka having high potency and being able to snapshotted with Mug/Bunshin to absolutely wreck health bars (this is the real OP of NIN kit but people far too focused on Death Link and Hyosho Ranryu)

MCH DoT hitting like a truck and now does more so

Slipstream and SCH DoTs were kinda meh as far as that goes as is Salted Earth as far as damage per tick goes.

Slipstream however is incredibly obnoxious in frontline due to their usually being a pack of SMNs spamming it, now that's going to be even worse.

I'm actually in the rare position of thinking this is mostly a decent patch, some questionable balance decisions around SMN/BLM/MCH, however giving more kill pressure means zerg melee tactics should be less prominent and changes the CC target priorities around quite a fair bit.

And at last, Deep Sleep isn't entirely useless!!

[Corbeau]

Is it to early to hate on black mages yet? And every match tonight has had one in it.

Nope, it's a massive overbuff that means every game is played around the BLM(s).