What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Kolsykol]

I think the honeymoon phase is beginning to wear off now, even on sites which aren't usually particularly critical (or to be more accurate, are usually gushing with praise.)

The only place I see this kind of negativity is here on the forums and it's always the same people ( including in this thread ) who are essentially always negative about everything about the game.

I'm thinking there are a lot of people like myself out there who initially loved Endwalker, took everything in at face value (which is what Yoshi wanted us to do), then started to go back and look at certain aspects of the story. I've even seen people start to creep up on Reddit with criticisms. As Yukiko said, the more you think about Endwalker's story, the more it falls apart and I don't appreciate Yoshida telling us we're thinking about it too much.

I dunno the exact context of what he said and how.
But I think there is such a thing as thinking too much about it, if people were as hypercritical about any other game, movie or show as they are about this it'd all fall apart too.
Especially since some people for some bizarre reason are already set on hating basically anything the devs do and 99% of their presence on the forum is just that, if you set your mind to hating something then it's very easy to find reasons to do it.
I also don't think that a character like Hermes can be a likeable or sympathetic character if you hyperfocus on what he did and that's the only thing you really think about.
Which is kinda weird too considering everything Emet did too and yet people have no issues appreciating his character, and we're talking about a guy who ran around genociding others.

Again I dunno what exactly he meant with that, but I don't think it's really about people just '' thinking about it '' it's about how they do it and the intent behind it.
If you go into something with the intent to find problems you're going to find it.

I have this problem too with a lot of media, especially shows and games that proclaim to be '' realistic '' if they do that then I am just going to become EXTREMELY nitpicky and it becomes almost impossible for me to enjoy it.

Edit: On the note of Emet too, it should be noted that he did it for a VERY long time.
Hermes didn't have the same amount of time to think about what he was doing, he made a decision in the moment based on what he was currently feeling.
Emet had plenty of time over the years to consider it and he still kept going with it.
Even if Emet had a more understandable motive he wasn't acting impulsively like Hermes was.

I can't say I felt I really connected with that closely, I certainly don't think he was written in away espically with how abusive his relationship with Meition is. Also is betrayal of us rather overrights any feel of comrade with him

Tbh to some extent it doesn't matter what you personally feel, because our characters are not actually us.
We don't have any real choice in our characters personality and what they think and feel ( outside of very small details ), what matters is what our characters feel which is something the writers control.

Me after some guy I talked to a few times one day suddenly becomes a mass murderer: oh no, my bestie, this isn’t you, please come to your senses!

It's not just us it's everyone else too, I also think that our '' past '' as Azem plays a role too in how we feel even if on a subconscious level.
Sorta like how Hythlodaeus almost felt like we were Azem and opened up more to us.