Can we talk about the Yoshi P double standard and bias here?

[KizuyaKatogami]

So clearly many people have seen the pvp changes etc about Blm and how Yoshi P has been playing blm in pvp lately and how ever since he didn’t blm is now immediately getting major attention and major buffs…. Can we talk about just how much of a double standard this is? The same man who told healer mains to basically f off and go play ultimate if they want their role to be engaging is….almost certainly the one pushing for these buffs for this job in pvp. What’s wrong Yoshi P? Just go play a different job or go play ultimate if you want blm to feel engaging right? This needs to be called out more. Also before anyone comments, yes i know blm needed buffs, but i don’t think anyone will argue that these buffs are a bit tone deaf to blm’s actual problems in pvp and mostly just overloading the kit.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

So clearly many people have seen the pvp changes etc about Blm and how Yoshi P has been playing blm in pvp lately and how ever since he didn’t blm is now immediately getting major attention and major buffs…. Can we talk about just how much of a double standard this is? The same man who told healer mains to basically f off and go play ultimate if they want their role to be engaging is….almost certainly the one pushing for these buffs for this job in pvp. What’s wrong Yoshi P? Just go play a different job or go play ultimate if you want blm to feel engaging right? This needs to be called out more. Also before anyone comments, yes i know blm needed buffs, but i don’t think anyone will argue that these buffs are a bit tone deaf to blm’s actual problems in pvp and mostly just overloading the kit.

BLM definitely needed the buffs, but they aren't the only one, and these buffs are a direct result of Yoshida being shown to have been participating in CC often of late. It's also rather hilariously sad to see how many things got adjusted for BLM in comparison to the other jobs that were packed into this patch.

Per a comment I left elsewhere:

Gonna be honest, it's fairly infuriating how just because he plays BLM religiously, it's the only job that retains some measure of complexity and is almost always first in line for buffs in PvE or PvP content.

Favoritism as a developer is bad, imo, especially when you have an entire section of the playerbase complaining about how dang boring their favorite job role is - only to get told "lol just go play Ultimate".

[Deceptus]

Gonna be honest, it's fairly infuriating how just because he plays BLM religiously, it's the only job that retains some measure of complexity and is almost always first in line for buffs in PvE or PvP content.

Favoritism as a developer is bad, imo, especially when you have an entire section of the playerbase complaining about how dang boring their favorite job role is - only to get told "lol just go play Ultimate".

There was an old WoW meme back in the day about the lead designer at that time Tom Chilton whose character was named Kalgan. That lead designer happened to play a Mage.

The meme was: Kalgan plays a Mage.

Guess what job was very rarely undertuned, was almost always viable, and almost always "fun"? Why? Because Kalgan plays a Mage, and the lead developer wants to have fun, that's why.

It's the exact same here.

"Yoshi-P plays a Black Mage" so they'll almost always be tuned well.

[Allegor]

There was an old WoW meme back in the day about the lead designer at that time Tom Chilton whose character was named Kalgan. That lead designer happened to play a Mage.

The meme was: Kalgan plays a Mage.

Guess what job was very rarely undertuned, was almost always viable, and almost always "fun"?

It's the exact same here.

"Yoshi-P plays a Black Mage" so they'll almost always be tuned well.

There was this one time, in like the entirety of the history of the game, where I think arcane mages were undertuned, and it was hotfixed within 48 hours. Meanwhile, shamans and hunters, the known "unwanted child" classes could spend entire patches and tier cycles being ignored, even outright declined/kicked from raid groups. Blizz was never subtle about their class favoritism.

[Vrankyl]

There was this one time, in like the entirety of the history of the game, where I think arcane mages were undertuned, and it was hotfixed within 48 hours. Meanwhile, shamans and hunters, the known "unwanted child" classes could spend entire patches and tier cycles being ignored, even outright declined/kicked from raid groups. Blizz was never subtle about their class favoritism.

Don't forget WW monks having the same scaling issue ever since they were added in MoP. Which unfortunately has been happening here. Just look at how long LD went before getting a fix.

[Momo_Kozuki]

There was an old WoW meme back in the day about the lead designer at that time Tom Chilton whose character was named Kalgan. That lead designer happened to play a Mage.

The meme was: Kalgan plays a Mage.

Guess what job was very rarely undertuned, was almost always viable, and almost always "fun"? Why? Because Kalgan plays a Mage, and the lead developer wants to have fun, that's why.

It's the exact same here.

"Yoshi-P plays a Black Mage" so they'll almost always be tuned well.

I remember my friend ranting that one of the WoW developer has very strong hate for Paladin because his Warrior in EverQuest get out-tanked by Paladin. For some unknown reason, he manages the Paladin class, resulting in constant nerfs. There is even Paladin class set that is pink in color.

[Larirawiel]

There was an old WoW meme back in the day about the lead designer at that time Tom Chilton whose character was named Kalgan. That lead designer happened to play a Mage.

The meme was: Kalgan plays a Mage.

Guess what job was very rarely undertuned, was almost always viable, and almost always "fun"? Why? Because Kalgan plays a Mage, and the lead developer wants to have fun, that's why.

It's the exact same here.

"Yoshi-P plays a Black Mage" so they'll almost always be tuned well.

Hihihi, and Tigole and Foror played Warriors. Guess, what was the most overpowererd class in WoW Classic?


Cheers

[Lauront]

BLM definitely needed the buffs, but they aren't the only one, and these buffs are a direct result of Yoshida being shown to have been participating in CC often of late. It's also rather hilariously sad to see how many things got adjusted for BLM in comparison to the other jobs that were packed into this patch.

Per a comment I left elsewhere:

Yes. On the one hand, I can't complain because I play it in PVP and the survivability, CC and cast time changes are welcome and I believe were necessary (although flat damage increases over re-thinking the asymmetry of how useful ice is vs fire was a bit bizarre), but on the other hand it's not alone in needing buffs - still baffles me that Sage - LB aside - has no real CC to speak of, not even a slow. At the moment I still plan on sticking to a healer in CC, and probably WHM, because their absence is sorely felt, even if I don't like healing.

When you compare the immediacy of addressing these issues to how he fobs off healer complaints in PVE, the irritation is understandable.

[Nizzi]

It really is quite embarrassing how obvious it is that BLM is the only job he cares about and how that's reflected through its gameplay in everything. I don't believe BLM needed to "stay bad" in PvP as penance for being well designed in PvE, but can some of our jobs even just get 25% of the love and care afforded to BLM in both PvE and PvP?
The disconnect between the way he talks about BLM and then the flippant dismissal he has towards basically every other job is infuriating. Legitimate healer concerns over the state of their gameplay for years just gets dismissed with "Go play Ultimate lmao" but then he explains in depth his feelings on why Enochian is being removed and how difficult it was to come to that decision going into Endwalker. Can people honestly say they really think Yoshida cares about any other job the way he cares about BLM?

[Dionysius]

nvm. misread.