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    Quote Originally Posted by Platinumstorm View Post
    What you say may be true, however there is nothing in the instructions that explains what happened to the original poster. Again, it was confusion by the user [which did not lead to any user error], which led to the revelation of a flaw within Square's system.

    There's way too much white knighting going on in this thread. What I'm saying is not wrong based only on the information given by the OP.
    Logic.. Why Would SE put you in an entirely different world with totally different people... If you DIDN'T want to move.. Logic says do nothing.. if you didn't DO the Application.. what's SE going to do.. Stop you from playing? Chuck you in a Different World with different people in it? No, they won't You (A World) just Merge with (B World)= C(Hello New people, meet my friends they are really nice).

    It's really not the complicating... :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Logic.. Why Would SE put you in an entirely different world with totally different people... If you DIDN'T want to move.. Logic says do nothing.. if you didn't DO the Application.. what's SE going to do..


    You obviously don't do anything related to design or marketing. First thing you learn is to treat customers as morons.
    You can't leave anything down to luck or costumer logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rousseau View Post
    Heh. You can't imagine someone who has suffered greatly and hasn't ended up quite as callous as yourself, can you? The fact, however, is that people do. Those, like myself, do our best to be decent folk when we can. It isn't impossible, you know.
    Well its not so much your decency that surprises me, its that you expect the community to follow suit. I guess it is callous of me, or cynical, but I don't expect anything of the sort from anyone lol. The world isnt exactly full of lots of nice and forgiving ppl. I'd like to say I'm one of the few, but I'm obviously harsher than you are lol. I tried though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    You obviously don't do anything related to design or marketing. First thing you learn is to treat customers as morons.
    You can't leave anything down to luck or costumer logic.
    Treat customers like Morons.. real nice... I'll remember that the next time I treat a customer.. I'm sure they'll feel smart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Treat customers like Morons.. real nice... I'll remember that the next time I treat a customer.. I'm sure they'll feel smart
    He didn't get that quite right. You ASSUME customers are morons, not treat them like morons. By assuming someone is a moron, it's easier to design something that a moron wouldn't be able to screw up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    He didn't get that quite right. You ASSUME customers are morons, not treat them like morons. By assuming someone is a moron, it's easier to design something that a moron wouldn't be able to screw up.
    Yeah, sorry, I'm translating my professor's words from spanish lol

    Actually class 1 he came in and said "CUSTOMERS ARE MORONS" to cause greater impact, but yeah, what you said is right on spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Where did they fail at customer care? -partial edit- OK, so they did say they couldn't cancel the request. That I agree is a problem. However, Yoshida has already stepped in to revise the process at least once to change the process. All might not be lost.
    The way I read it, you had from the 1st-12th to cancel your own request, at this point though, your locked in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Logic.. Why Would SE put you in an entirely different world with totally different people... If you DIDN'T want to move.. Logic says do nothing.. if you didn't DO the Application.. what's SE going to do.. Stop you from playing? Chuck you in a Different World with different people in it? No, they won't You (A World) just Merge with (B World)= C(Hello New people, meet my friends they are really nice).

    It's really not the complicating... :/
    Here's logic for you since you seem to want to keep using that word: Why put the player's default server of transfer on their application at all? Especially if it would cause something like this because you know that's never going to end well no matter how you look at it...

    Should the OP have tried to transfer? No, that's established. However, that does not mean SE should turn around and say: "Tee hee, you idiot, you tried to transfer to your own server and now we shall punish you by sending you to Ragnarok!" That's just beyond stupid. Would it really have been that difficult for the system to go: "The server you have applied to is already your default server for transfer. Application aborted."?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    He didn't get that quite right. You ASSUME customers are morons, not treat them like morons. By assuming someone is a moron, it's easier to design something that a moron wouldn't be able to screw up.
    This is actually a good policy. Then again, you'd be surprised at how stupid a moron can be. I'm sure SE thought this was idiot-proof if they spammed instructions enough but, alas, look where we are. There's nothing you can do, outside of thinking for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rousseau View Post
    So is that reasoning what eases your guilt for the way that you treat people?
    Irresponsibility is each person's own problem.

    Nice community you've got here, by the way. It's full of such lovely and helpful people.
    When people ask for help, they get it. The OP came out swinging an axe towards FFXIV and 2.0, I only respond in a manner befitting of the person I respond to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rousseau View Post
    Silly me. I thought communities were for standing together and supporting others, even when they might do something "stupid." Shame, shame on me, for giving someone the benefit of the doubt. You really taught me the ways of this big, bad, harsh world, didn't ya, little buddy?
    Communities are there to help those willing to help themselves.

    Sigh. Carry on with your attacks, then, if that's the kind of person that you want to be.
    If the OP didn't swing an axe in the first place, any following post would've met likewise.
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