Does Square intend to address Market botting?

[AliceVT]

How do y'all figure out who is botting the MB? I play on Malboro and have recently gotten into playing the MB for profits, it's been going super well. But it's involved updating my listing many many times by 1 gil just to stay freshest on the board. Usually a few times before I sell everything, some people could probably think I'm a bot since I sometimes keep a very close eye on it. I'm just curious if people are seeing legitemate players as bots in this case.

[KageTokage]

How do y'all figure out who is botting the MB? I play on Malboro and have recently gotten into playing the MB for profits, it's been going super well. But it's involved updating my listing many many times by 1 gil just to stay freshest on the board. Usually a few times before I sell everything, some people could probably think I'm a bot since I sometimes keep a very close eye on it. I'm just curious if people are seeing legitemate players as bots in this case.

The typical market bots:

1. Only have a single DoW/M job at level 90 with nothing else touched aside from DoH/L.

2. Are online 24/7.

3. Are only ever on DoH/L jobs and never actually doing other activities once they've hit the level cap on their sole combat job.

4. Will undercut you within 5-10 minutes of making a price adjustment regardless of the time of day.


There are also some "casual" market botters who play normally in the day but leave crafting and/or gathering scripts running overnight.

[Unkara]

How do y'all figure out who is botting the MB? I play on Malboro and have recently gotten into playing the MB for profits, it's been going super well. But it's involved updating my listing many many times by 1 gil just to stay freshest on the board. Usually a few times before I sell everything, some people could probably think I'm a bot since I sometimes keep a very close eye on it. I'm just curious if people are seeing legitemate players as bots in this case.

here you have an example for Bot using, or at least an account thats involved in RMT
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...007262/member/
one char with all DoH/L maxed out, and only one DoW/M at 90
has a FC with many alts, only played to the point were you unlock your retainers
those alts have a fixed route in any capital, from FC chest to the Summoning Bell (watched one for 2 hours)
they login every 30-60min to undercut you for 1-10gil, and everyone of those alts are using undercutting bots, cause they never need more then 1-2min to update all there items from every retainer

[AliceVT]

here you have an example for Bot using, or at least an account thats involved in RMT
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...007262/member/
one char with all DoH/L maxed out, and only one DoW/M at 90
has a FC with many alts, only played to the point were you unlock your retainers
those alts have a fixed route in any capital, from FC chest to the Summoning Bell (watched one for 2 hours)
they login every 30-60min to undercut you for 1-10gil, and everyone of those alts are using undercutting bots, cause they never need more then 1-2min to update all there items from every retainer

I see I see, thanks for the info! I'll keep an eye out and see if I notice any.

[Kes13a]

I see I see, thanks for the info! I'll keep an eye out and see if I notice any.

you have your world market/crafter bots, single job high level fc leader, and then 7 or 8 fc members who are JUST high enough to have retainers.

then you have data center ones that have every item on all the worlds made by one person. often they have retainers of the *world name*-r-1 to 7 naming convention. nothing suspicious tehre right? no reason to investigate someone making gil on EVERY world.... they are just greedy or something, and they continually operate.

STF enforcement is a running joke, and SE just does nothing. GM's hands are tied and cannot enforce any action against bots, since it all has to go through the STF.

the company needs to do something. period. because this is not working

[Prrringles]

The new hot thing is arbitrage trading. Buy cheap on the JP data center and sell higher on the US/EU data center. They spam all the expensive mounts/minions/glamour items. Otherwise the same usual bot account setup, automatically undercut every ~10min by 1gil, etc. Check the mounts on your server and see if a handful of the same retainers is selling batches of them.

Also create a character on the Mana data center for fun. Check out all the buy-outs going on for the mounts/minions. It's non-stop buying in batches of 5-10 by the bot accounts. But why would SE bother, right? I think we already established this years ago. They don't care if the market is run by 1 giant bot/rmt imperium or a thousand individuals. It's all the same for them.

EDIT: Just made a character on Crystal to check the situation over there. EXACTLY the same problem lol. I already spotted all the same retainers selling the exact same items as on the other data centers.