I don't want to transfer, so WHY are you forcing me to?

[Peptaru]

Everyone who does this IS an idiot. There are 103492385298374 (exaggerated number) posts about the world merge, a little bit of caution and attention over something this major should be standard. I'm not in favor of negligence or idiocy being fixed by outside parties, even if they are a big company like SE. The information is not only readily available, it all but beats you over the head anywhere you look, if you take the time to look. I'm sorry that they'll get stuck on a new server 'cuz that sucks for them, but at the same time.... why should someone else have to fix these mistakes when they're not only ---not responsible--- for the mistakes, but they provided tons and tons of info to prevent the mistake from ever occuring?

[Lux_Rayna]

Of course you got transferred. If you dont want to change worlds *dont* put in a server transfer application. Otherwise the system is going to think you want a transfer, and if your first choice is full, it will default you to another. Its like the huge issue with billing, people just don't read before they click. Putting in a transfer application to merge into a world you are already on is

1) ridiculous lol..it makes no sense..why would you do that?

2) it tells the system you want to be transferred somewhere *other* than where your world will be merged. Its not SE's fault, its yours. I admit the coding *should* allow it to figure out you just wanted to stay on your default server...but regardless it is your fault.

If you dont wanna leave your world dont put in a transfer application. Why are ppl doing this??? What is wrong with the education system these days?

[Rousseau]

Everyone who does this IS an idiot. There are 103492385298374 (exaggerated number) posts about the world merge, a little bit of caution and attention over something this major should be standard. I'm not in favor of negligence or idiocy being fixed by outside parties, even if they are a big company like SE. The information is not only readily available, it all but beats you over the head anywhere you look, if you take the time to look. I'm sorry that they'll get stuck on a new server 'cuz that sucks for them, but at the same time.... why should someone else have to fix these mistakes when they're not only ---not responsible--- for the mistakes, but they provided tons and tons of info to prevent the mistake from ever occuring?

For one, this invalidates your original argument of why your behavior is acceptable. For another, maybe they should help out because it keeps customers happy? Maybe because there are all sorts of reasons why people make mistakes, and it's not as simple as "lol u dum?"

Also, here is an analogy. Let's say you walk into an English class that I am teaching. Earlier that week, I covered what you had to do for the assignment several times. You submit a paper you wrote when you were sick with the flu, lost your dog, had to work an 80 hour week, and broke your hand while mending the fence. The paper is terrible. I tell you that you are an idiot for making such obvious mistakes, that your excuses are BS, and that not only do you fail this course entirely, but the F will be on your permanent record and you may never retake the class again, effectively barring you from higher education for the rest of your life. Is that fair? Or maybe I should offer you a re-write, or at least let you continue the course and try to raise your grade or to drop it and try again next semester? Or should I not do that, as I previously went over the material, meaning that you should have known better?

[BeePee]

It's posted everywhere. Lodestone, forums, hell even a system message when you log into the game!

People need to slow down and read. Kinda depressing knowing that's hard for people.

[Peptaru]

For one, this invalidates your original argument of why your behavior is acceptable. For another, maybe they should help out because it keeps customers happy? Maybe because there are all sorts of reasons why people make mistakes, and it's not as simple as "lol u dum?"

Also, here is an analogy. Let's say you walk into an English class that I am teaching. Earlier that week, I covered what you had to do for the assignment several times. You submit a paper you wrote when you were sick with the flu, lost your dog, had to work an 80 hour week, and broke your hand while mending the fence. The paper is terrible. I tell you that you are an idiot for making such obvious mistakes, that your excuses are BS, and that not only do you fail this course entirely, but the F will be on your permanent record and you may never retake the class again, effectively barring you from higher education for the rest of your life. Is that fair? Or maybe I should offer you a re-write, or at least let you continue the course and try to raise your grade or to drop it and try again next semester? Or should I not do that, as I previously went over the material, meaning that you should have known better?

I'll take the F, its the grade i earned for my paper regardless of circumstance. I should have filed for an extension on the paper or at the very least made sure i was caught up before writing it. if it was assigned before i missed class (cuz if all that was going wrong being in class would be the least of my worries), how could it be based on information we hadn't yet received? you'd make a bad teacher lmao. If I earned an F, gimme my F!

[Lux_Rayna]

For one, this invalidates your original argument of why your behavior is acceptable. For another, maybe they should help out because it keeps customers happy? Maybe because there are all sorts of reasons why people make mistakes, and it's not as simple as "lol u dum?"

Ppl make mistakes because they dont pay attention and they don't read. Most mistakes come from simply not taking the time to understand instruction. What makes it worse is that they turn around and blame the institution for *their* mistake. Of course thats stupid, ppl that do that are idiots. If you do something stupid, admit that it was stupid, admit that it was your fault, and only then will it be clear you're not an idiot...just someone that made a stupid mistake.

Also, here is an analogy. Let's say you walk into an English class I am teaching. Earlier that week, I covered what you had to do for the assignment several times. You submit a paper you wrote when you were sick with the flu, lost your dog, had to work an 80 hour week, and broke your hand while mending the fence. The paper is terrible. I tell you that you are an idiot for making such obvious mistakes, that your excuses are BS, and that not only do you fail this course entirely, but the F will be on your permanent record and you may never retake the class again, effectively barring you from higher education for the rest of your life. Is that fair? Or maybe I should offer you a re-write, or at least let you continue the course and try to raise your grade or to drop it and try again next semester? Or should I not do that, as I previously went over the material, meaning that you should have known better?

1) In college you would get the grade you get. I dont know what world you live in, but the real world doesn't cater to your mistakes because you had a bad week.

2) Its an entirely different scenario. There are no outside factors that could influence a person's choice to ask for a server transfer when multiple instructions were given stating to only do this if you wanted to be moved. The only reason for ppl *failing* to adhere to this instruction is simply not paying attention. Here is a better example:

You're an English teacher and you have someone in your class. You tell them in class that the paper needs to be double-spaced, 12 pt font, and submitted in paper form by the due date and time in order to receive a grade. The student was in class for this instruction, and this instruction was also listed on the syllabus. The following week, the student submits the paper electronically the night before, and does not bring a hard copy to class the day/time it is due. He receives a 0. Later, the student comes to you and says it is your fault because he turned in the paper. The rules said, in multiple places, a paper must be submitted in HARD COPY. What does he get? A zero. Why? Because he wasnt freakin paying attention..and didnt listen to instructions. Thats his fault, no second chances for him either.

EDIT: A real life example btw, though luckily i was never that student.

[Wynn]

Everyone who does this IS an idiot. There are 103492385298374 (exaggerated number) posts about the world merge, a little bit of caution and attention over something this major should be standard. I'm not in favor of negligence or idiocy being fixed by outside parties, even if they are a big company like SE. The information is not only readily available, it all but beats you over the head anywhere you look, if you take the time to look. I'm sorry that they'll get stuck on a new server 'cuz that sucks for them, but at the same time.... why should someone else have to fix these mistakes when they're not only ---not responsible--- for the mistakes, but they provided tons and tons of info to prevent the mistake from ever occuring?

Normally, I would agree with you. But in this particular case, the OP states they clicked on their default server, which said it was full, and then rather than leaving the player where they were, it is now sending the OP to another server entirely which was never picked at all. If this is true, it shouldn't have happened this way. The character never left the pool from the original server so that is exactly where they should have ended up. Not another server that was never selected in the first place.

Should people have known they didn't have to do anything? Yeah, it was explicitly stated. But to pick your own server, be told it is full while you are still on it, and then be defaulted to a completely different server all together is poor planning on SE's part. They should have anticipated people were going to click on their own server while it was full, even if told they don't have to, and made sure the character stays put if a transfer doesn't go through successfully.

If what happened to the OP is true, this is going to be very bad because I am certain that OP was not the only person who clicked on their own server during the merge period thinking they had to do that to stay on the same server. In about 10 days time, these boards are going to explode. In addition, that kind of negative word of mouth is the last thing this game needs while trying to relaunch.

If OP actually picked Ragnorok, hoping to jump to another server when a spot opened then that's on them and I've no sympathy for their problem. But if what happened is what they said happened then yeah, it should be righted, even if technically OP is at fault for applying for transfer when they really wanted to stay where they were.

[Starlord]

Normally, I would agree with you. But in this particular case, the OP states they clicked on their default server, which said it was full, and then rather than leaving the player where they were, it is now sending the OP to another server entirely which was never picked at all. If this is true, it shouldn't have happened this way. The character never left the pool from the original server so that is exactly where they should have ended up. Not another server that was never selected in the first place.

Should people have known they didn't have to do anything? Yeah, it was explicitly stated. But to pick your own server, be told it is full while you are still on it, and then be defaulted to a completely different server all together is poor planning on SE's part. They should have anticipated people were going to click on their own server while it was full, even if told they don't have to, and made sure the character stays put if a transfer doesn't go through successfully.

If what happened to the OP is true, this is going to be very bad because I am certain that OP was not the only person who clicked on their own server during the merge period thinking they had to do that to stay on the same server. In about 10 days time, these boards are going to explode. In addition, that kind of negative word of mouth is the last thing this game needs while trying to relaunch.

If OP actually picked Ragnorok, hoping to jump to another server when a spot opened then that's on them and I've no sympathy for their problem. But if what happened is what they said happened then yeah, it should be righted, even if technically OP is at fault for applying for transfer when they really wanted to stay where they were.

If she wanted to stay on his/her server.. you really didn't have to do "anything" and SE "figured" that If they do the application.. is because they want to move.. This is just bad logic on OPs and anyone else that did this.

[Dragon]

Why do people feel the need to attack someone who is asking for help? What did they do to any of you? What was that? Nothing? You hardly know them? Then why in the world are you acting as if they are a criminal for making a mistake? Honestly...

If you don't have anything positive to say in order to help, then why say anything at all?

They're not "just" asking for help. Do yourself a favor and read the OP; not to mention this is absolutely the wrong place to ask for such things.

[Rousseau]

I'll take the F, its the grade i earned for my paper regardless of circumstance. I should have filed for an extension on the paper or at the very least made sure i was caught up before writing it. if it was assigned before i missed class (cuz if all that was going wrong being in class would be the least of my worries), how could it be based on information we hadn't yet received? you'd make a bad teacher lmao. If I earned an F, gimme my F!

So you'd take an F due to extenuating circumstances and be barred from ever receiving a degree? Sir, I believe you are either full of crap or that you did not read my entire post. I did not ask you if the F, itself, was fair. I asked you if flunking out of college entirely due to one F was fair. That is the analogy, as this player has already ended up in the wrong place and is panicking about it. They've already received their F. What lays ahead of them is whether or not they are completely barred from their server or not, with no way back.