Why so many FC plots?

[Jojoya]

Unfortunately its our current player base that longs to wanting more and more,

The housing, SAM’s kaiten, PvP.

On this matter of the housing its a sheer display of a frustated particular group that’s on an ongoing train tantrums that just refuse to move along….the game is still huge…buy an apartment & be content with it.

You’re right….it’s a part of sad western mindset that having enough just not enough & strive for more…lovely display of character

It's also a lovely display of character when one feels that what they personally find satisfactory should be satisfactory for everyone else and any dissatisfaction is selfish entitlement.

[dspguy]

I expect SE to address this in the future. They now have real data points on the FC housing demand. In theory, every FC that wants a house, should have one within 1-2 lottery cycles, especially if they go after smalls with 0 bids. However, the longer SE waits before converting some wards to private-or-FC wards, the more shell FCs will buy up those remaining plots.

Keep in mind that when the lottery system was introduced, we were told FC members had to be 30 days old in order to bid. When the first lottery round ended, it was less than 30 days since that announcement. It has been more than 30 days since that announcement. Shell FCs are able to snatch up these plots. And this will continue until the wards are opened to private players.

[Selsix]

They prioritized FCs because they -should- prioritize FCs. An entire group of people is more deserving of a house than one singular dude when there's only so many houses to go around.

Personally, I'm of the mind that personal housing was a mistake in general when it came to the wards. The wards should have been FC only and personal housing should've been instanced.

[GeminiReed]

They prioritized FCs because they -should- prioritize FCs. An entire group of people is more deserving of a house ...

You mean the groups where only the select few have workshop, decoration, or gardening privs? Or plunk down for an FC apartment and be beholden to a landlord that can evict you at the drop of a hat?

That sounds wonderful. Not.

[Selsix]

You mean the groups where only the select few have workshop, decoration, or gardening privs? Or plunk down for an FC apartment and be beholden to a landlord that can evict you at the drop of a hat?

That sounds wonderful. Not.

Sounds like you're in a garbage FC and should find a new one.

[Drkdays]

They prioritized FCs because they -should- prioritize FCs. An entire group of people is more deserving of a house than one singular dude when there's only so many houses to go around.

Personally, I'm of the mind that personal housing was a mistake in general when it came to the wards. The wards should have been FC only and personal housing should've been instanced.

The clear and obvious problem is that a great many FCs do not in fact host "an entire group of people."

With so many homes FC only now, it seems as though SE is trying to encourage more FC to be formed with the bare minimum of members just for a home.

"You want to fully experience a large aspect of the game, you gotta make your own FC and then you can buy a home, because your chances of a personal home are tiny! And we don't care how you make an FC so long as it happens

P.S. it's not like you have to allow your FC members to be able to decorate lol it really is just a personal house with a back door for apartments."

[GeminiReed]

Sounds like you're in a garbage FC and should find a new one.

None worries, I know when it's time to leave when it's time to leave and have done so. If you're in an FC with open access to all that... well... hope nobody gets hacked because you might find yourselves homeless. Yes that happened to one guild I was part of. Been in a guild in another game where the GM had a temper tantrum and kicked everybody from the guild.

Human nature is what it is. I've been through enough drama fueled guild breakups to never consider any my "forever" guild unless I know and trust the players personally in RL. I'm in one and we're looking for a house just to gain access to features that should never have been gated by housing in the first place.

[LaylaTsarra]

Apartments are a better deal than FC rooms. They allow you to pick a location separate from your FC location for teleport and more. Probably be awhile before they adjust the FC wards to mixed.

[Silhouettic]

I can see the reason behind giving FCs a fair chance but most of the FC wards are completely empty on my server and I'd still like an opportunity to bid for the plot I actually want. Had they opened more wards for individuals from the get-go, at least on Oceanic, there would have been enough housing for everyone to bid :/ I went around to the placards to check every ward and subdivision under personal and there were 2 bids on half and 1 on the other so just by having a few more personal or MIXED wards (keeping some or even half as FC only), it would have allowed everyone to get what they wanted. Wishful thinking that they enabled it for the next round but it would be nice.

[Akiudo]

They prioritized FCs because they -should- prioritize FCs. An entire group of people is more deserving of a house than one singular dude when there's only so many houses to go around.

okay, lets ignore shell fc's where its realistically just 1 dude playing and a few alts to fill the ranks. if you take out every fc thats effectively 2 people at the maximum (because there is no "servicing lots of people" theres also no reason for any kind of priority there, in fact there are players sharing their personal houses with 3 others so they would in fact be servicing more people than a lot of "fc's"), how big do you think the average fc is ? because if its just 10 people that would mean there are 10 times as many individuals as there are fc's. prioritizing fc's is one thing, but at the current split and an "average" fc size of just 10 members that would mean there is right now a 20 times higher chance for any given fc to grab a house compared to any single player.

than theres actual accesibility to the houses features. you can say all you want that people should just find "better" fc's or whatever, reality is that at least some of them (more like most, but lets ignore that) will be run in the way of the leader/2-3 officers having all the "fun" and the rest of the fc being allowed to use the house as a glorified appartment, the "value" a personal house offers for any given person simply isn't the same as if you just join a new fc, no matter how nice they might be.

so yea, given that there are a lot fewer fc's than there are players square doesn't really offer fc's twice as many houses but more like 20 times the amount of houses, and that is lowballing the average fc size quite harshly aswell as completly ignoring that for most people an "fc house" means a lot less personal involvement than a personal one would.