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    Quote Originally Posted by Vryn View Post
    Long term effects of puberty blockers cause massive issues down the line, especially fertility. Yes in some cases it can be restarted but again to the question why are you giving children who don't know better and can't consent body and mind-altering drugs.
    Bone density issues what can be mitigated with help from medical professionals, its almost like doctors are trained professionals
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    Bone density issues what can be mitigated with help from medical professionals, its almost like doctors are trained professionals
    Almost? I can see that, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    Bone density issues can be mitigated with help from medical professionals, its almost like doctors are trained professionals
    They shouldn't have to be mitigated, and the fact you are presenting that argument shows the issue. Societal abuse and medical experimentation of children is not okay even if you fix it later on, which you can't because it's not just bone density issues, muscle, organ development, cancers, mental development etc.

    You are advocating for the body and mind-altering of 100 of thousands of children because you could potentially fix it and frankly, that's child abuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vryn View Post
    They shouldn't have to be mitigated, and the fact you are presenting that argument shows the issue. Societal abuse and medical experimentation of children is not okay even if you fix it later on, which you can't because it's not just bone density issues, muscle, organ development, cancers, mental development etc.

    Your advocating for the body and mind altering of 100 of thousands of children because you could potentially fix it.
    Where have I advocated for it? you seem to like putting words in my mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    Where have I advocated for it? you seem to like putting words in my mouth.
    Its your argument
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vryn View Post
    Its your argument
    No it isn't, I'm just informing you on how blockers work. you can find my opinion a few pages back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    No it isn't, I'm just informing you on how blockers work. you can find my opinion a few pages back.
    (It was your argument it came from you. Blockers don't work that way and the fact you put forward that argument was your advocating of the process. Im not going to read all the responses I'm responding to you at the present. you didn't even say you were a devil's advocate and then you even doubled down,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vryn View Post
    You didn't, blockers don't work that way and the fact you put forward that argument was your advocating of the process. Im not going to read all the responses I'm responding to you at the present. you didn't even say you were a devil's advocate and then you even doubled down,
    ok, how do they work then and if they are so horrible why do we still use them on children with non-trans related issues?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vryn View Post
    Societal abuse and medical experimentation of children is not okay
    if that's the case then how come the creator of Gender Theory, John Money, is praised despite how much of a monster he was?
    https://youtu.be/tBGrP3AP0_Y
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vav2021 View Post
    if that's the case then how come the creator of Gender Theory, John Money, is praised despite how much of a monster he was?
    https://youtu.be/tBGrP3AP0_Y
    People praise Stalin it doesn't mean he was a swell guy.
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