Can we not shame people who don't like the MSQ?

[Alaray]

tbh ppl need to grow up about stuff in general

someone doesn't like something? who cares. literally doesn't affect you? then shut up.

even the majority of people who talk about the story have the literary analysis skills of kindergartners, and get rage-baby pissed off if you like x or y character 90% of the time. or thought x/y scene was well done/badly handled, or if you criticize some portrayals, etc...

or like, somehow manage to miss metaphors the size of the sun.

even ppl who say "story bad" who didn't play it, again, who cares? like 99% of the time it's some rando in NN, not a person who's considered to have actual credibility that can actually influence opinion in some way. it's like when i say "marvel movies are kind of shit" and some rando i don't know decides to inform me that they're... idk, the best thing since sliced bread (they're shit).

end of the day whether someone likes the story or not is meaningless nonsense that doesn't actually matter much. if you care to have a discussion, then just ask "why do you dislike it?" and 90% of the time it's usually because ARR's pretty slow and a bit dry, or it's just "going to npc to npc to read the story a paragraph at a time kind of sucks." like, you'll find that people tend to have a reason. you don't need to jump down their throat over it.

and yeah, ppl who don't like the story might like and enjoy other aspects of the game. the story doesn't solely carry the title. for instance, i play xiv since i enjoy the raiding more than what the competition offered. i like some of the aesthetics a little more (mostly, i like that i can play more feminine male characters since they're just what i /like/ and most games don't really have that).

no point in like... attacking someone over it. have a discussion, sure, but if you're gettin emotional and actin out pls don't type/talk; no one wants to hear it.

[Heavenchild]

1. It is perfectly valid for someone to not like the story and still enjoy the rest of FF14!

Yes of course. Story like/dislike is mostly about personal opinion. But many people here try to set the story in a bad light, just because they personally disliked some stuff.
That triggers other people and then we have the disaster. :x

[SernMoe]

Endwalker MSQ sucks lmao, most bits are boring and pointless. Stormblood and Heavenswards were better.

[Raoabolic]

Endwalker MSQ sucks lmao, most bits are boring and pointless. Stormblood and Heavenswards were better.

Stormblood had it's moments but a lot of times I was stuck in ala mingo thinking "When am I going back to Kugane. :/".

[IkaraGreydancer]

Endwalker MSQ sucks lmao, most bits are boring and pointless. Stormblood and Heavenswards were better.

Feel free to dislike it, but how are things pointless? That part I'm curious about

[Elesh]

People are allowed to like or dislike whatever they want. But... when you go on tirades about how much you dislike something and your reason for disliking it is either:
1) You misunderstood the entire thing.
2) You filled in the blanks that were left ambiguous with a ridiculous chain of events that make no sense and then used that nonsense that you yourself concocted as justification for disliking the rest of the story.



... at that point you probably just need to shut up about it. Because the problem's you, not it.

[BaconBits]

Genocide Mommy Venat was the highlight of EW tbh.

[Lauront]

... at that point you probably just need to shut up about it. Because the problem's you, not it.

Take your own advice.

[redheadturk]

It's ok to not like the story, not every media will be for everyone. What people rightfully have a problem with, is people who skip the msq and then complain about it. You can't know if you don't like it if you haven't experienced it. I've seen multiple times people that skip the msq because they don't like it (?) then replay the story on an alt or on new game + at some point, and suddenly they realize they love it.

I did not skip the MSQ/cutscenes my first playthrough, I still disliked the story for EW in particular because of things they did to a group of characters I truly liked that the reasoning for those actions did not fully make sense when it could have been prevented.

[Elesh]

I did not skip the MSQ/cutscenes my first playthrough, I still disliked the story for EW in particular because of things they did to a group of characters I truly liked that the reasoning for those actions did not fully make sense when it could have been prevented.

I don't think anyone would have objection with you disliking the story then. At least nobody I've met.

You didn't agree with their decisions, so you didn't enjoy it. That's perfectly reasonable.

There have certainly been many cases where I've felt that way about a show, game, or book.