This Community gets too worked up over people who DONT LIKE the story

[KizuyaKatogami]

I thought Endwalker sucked because a big portion of it undid what I felt made the end of ShB so great.

Not many people have dogpiled me over it, and most who ask can see where my opinion comes from even if they don't agree.

I mostly see dogpiling when you're negative about the game.

The thing is i’ve seen people dog pile someone who didn’t enjoy endwalker and pointed out objective problems with it and were met with: “You just don’t understand the story!” It’s so condescending and rude and it happens all the time in the lore forums.

[Ransu]

I am sick and tired of people invalidating people’s positive experiences with the game just because they didn’t like the story. I’m sorry, but me personally, I DID NOT enjoy the story very much and I skip every single cutscene in the game….it just doesn’t matter to me that much.

I’m envious of people who DO enjoy the story, because Square Enix is known for their amazing FF stories, but XIV just isn’t one of them.

I won’t go into detail as to why I don’t like it, but we should stop witch hunting or insulting people who don’t like the story. Just because people didn’t like it doesn’t mean they don’t like other aspects of the game. For example, the boss music is phenomenal. Because I don’t like the story, I’m not a real fan then huh…..yeah no

Skipping cutscenes tells me immediately you have no interest in story heavy content to begin with which makes me question why you would even play this game when the main focus has always been the MSQ.

[Mika_Zahard]

The thing is i’ve seen people dog pile someone who didn’t enjoy endwalker and pointed out objective problems with it and were met with: “You just don’t understand the story!” It’s so condescending and rude and it happens all the time in the lore forums.

You're partially right... But some of the valid dogpiling i've seen in both forums and noobnetwork, have been about people talking shit about the story, saying it makes no sense, when they straight up skipped it and cant connect the dots/fill up the blanks.

Skipping cutscenes tells me immediately you have no interest in story heavy content to begin with which makes me question why you would even play this game when the main focus has always been the MSQ.

I'll tell you why: Because their friends are playing it and it looks good but they dont want to do 200 hours of content before reaching their friends and play alongside them, so they either skip cutscenes or buy a story skip and still skip cs, just to catch up. After all, you can watch the MSQ in youtube and call it a day.

[KageTokage]

"You just don't understand it." is one of the most commonly used and lazy counterarguments for people finding valid reasons to dislike something that is largely popular in general.

However, it is genuinely silly how many content creators were attempting to ride the Shadowbringers and Endwalker hype and tried to make valid reviews/critiques of their stories in a void after skipping everything prior when that just...doesn't work.

[Vav2021]

Wow, pretty sure the actor in that gif is transphobic. Just wow.

transphobic? I've really never pinned anyone of being phobic of transmission mechanics.

[Kolsykol]

9 out of 10 times it's because people are just being shitty about it.
There is a difference between saying that you didn't enjoy something and with insinuating or outright saying that the writers are idiots and that it's the most horrible thing that has ever been created.
A lot of the time people are just going out of their way to get really hung up on small things too and are critical to a point they aren't with anything else.
A lot of it just comes across like people wanting to hate it and is very personally directed against the devs.

I think quite a lot of people just don't understand what actual criticism and feedback is, it's not being a complete douchebag most of the time it's just extremely angry venting or it's just people wanting to be a contrarian and reaching.
There's legit criticism people can make about it, but just calling the writers stupid because you personally didn't like a character isn't that.
And quite often the same people only ever make negative posts about the game and never have anything good to say at all it's not really unfair to question their motives at that point.

But sure, apply the same level of '' criticism '' to a game like God of War and see the reaction you'll get.
It won't be any different if anything it'll probably be worse.

[Elesh]

I’m envious of people who DO enjoy the story, because Square Enix is known for their amazing FF stories, but XIV just isn’t one of them.

Just wanna point out perhaps the reason you get criticized is the way you phrase your comments about the story.

By saying the story is bad (or that it 'just isn't one of the good ones' as you put it here) you're insulting the taste and preferences people who disagree with you by implying they like bad things. Also by saying 'I skip every scene but still somehow know enough about what happens in those scenes to know they're bad' you kind of put yourself on rocky ground for actually discussing the quality of the story. It'd be like 'I went to a restaurant, ordered a meal and threw it in the garbage because I knew it was bad' or 'I watched a movie, but closed my eyes and plugged my ears for the entire thing. It sucked' - if you skip everything, you really objectively lack the knowledge to judge it's quality. That's not to say you should stop skipping - if you don't enjoy it, you should skip it. But you should then not pretend you know the actual quality of the story.

If you stick to 'I personally don't like the story, it just didn't really resonate with me' or something along those lines rather than 'FF games usually have good stories but not this one!', you might get less blowback on your comments.

That being said, I agree that nobody should be witch-hunted for their preferences... however, I do wish people would think about more about WHY they might be getting the responses to their comments that they are...

[technole]

I sometimes feel there are habitual cutscene skippers since the beginning of their time in the game, living on a 'story is boring' angle that does not hold up today. As things got considerably good from the Doma-half of Stormblood and beyond, when Natsuko Ishikawa completely took over writing the main scenario from that point on to this day.

[Lauront]

Well no, what I recall was your points being torn to shreds using source materials, and then you proceeded to throw a tantrum stating the above.

[EagleDynamics]

By saying the story is bad (or that it 'just isn't one of the good ones' as you put it here) you're insulting the taste and preferences people who disagree with you by implying they like bad things.

Basically what youre admitting is that criticism of the story is a blow to your ego. No wonder you try so hard to defend the FFXIV story. You take the criticism personally.