Is the new housing notice saying you can keep your money and get the house?

[BrokentoothMarch]

This is a pretty big tell that the very Japanese cultured company.. does not understand or possibly CANNOT understand the cultures and attitudes in it's other markets.

Not that being Japanese changes anything. It seems SE is about as connected with their native audience as NA companies are connected with theirs. The large sentiment in Japanese boards and forums seems to be that they intend to keep the free gil as it makes literally no sense to dump it for no reason.

This isn't a cultural thing. It's a corporation not having a clue thing. And that seems to be universal in our world.

[Krotoan]

Not that being Japanese changes anything. It seems SE is about as connected with their native audience as NA companies are connected with theirs. The large sentiment in Japanese boards and forums seems to be that they intend to keep the free gil as it makes literally no sense to dump it for no reason.

This isn't a cultural thing. It's a corporation not having a clue thing. And that seems to be universal in our world.

I'd say, being familiar with both, that socially, someone in the JP market would be far more likely to forfeit the gil than in our market. Citing also the example of how the mentor system works there, but not here. (for the most part)

It's not like there's 100% expected anywhere.. but what sounds like a semi-viable solution in one market... is laughable in another. I don't think ANYONE in the NA market will give up the gil.. I think maybe 30-45% will in the JP servers.

[BrokentoothMarch]

I'd say, being familiar with both, that socially, someone in the JP market would be far more likely to forfeit the gil than in our market. Citing also the example of how the mentor system works there, but not here. (for the most part)

It's not like there's 100% expected anywhere.. but what sounds like a semi-viable solution in one market... is laughable in another. I don't think ANYONE in the NA market will give up the gil.. I think maybe 30-45% will in the JP servers.

I mean, you can believe what you want to believe. I'm very aware of the fascination people have with the Japanese here, but it doesn't take much to realize that they're, well, people like any other. All our brains are very much wired to respond to stimuli and dumping gil for no reason provides none while attacking the very sense of something we own. If you think the Japanese violate all sense of what is the human condition, to the point of ignoring what's being stated in their very community forums, that's up to you. They don't care and neither should we. Regardless of country, culture, or even universe: Going "uwu pwease wetuwn mawnie datt we wont checck if u did or do anything for uwu" is going to have consistent failure rates across all of them.

Not to mention that, at least in JP, this is the community that sent knives to the studio over nonsense things. If you truly, genuinely believe there's going to be a significant return rate, then please. Give me your house. I promise I'll return it someday eventually. /s

[Krotoan]

I mean, you can believe what you want to believe. I'm very aware of the fascination people have with the Japanese here, but it doesn't take much to realize that they're, well, people like any other. All our brains are very much wired to respond to stimuli and dumping gil for no reason provides none while attacking the very sense of something we own.

I don't have a "fascination". I live where the culture is an amalgamation of several cultures due to it's roots. A large part of that being Japanese culture with direct ties to 1st gen populations. I also have several friends and relatives who reside in the country and were brought up in that culture. There is a large sense of social responsibility and cultivation of community good over the individual. This isn't "better" than the NA, it's just a difference. I think you seem to have a mischaracterization of me as some "japan is the utopia" fanboy. They are not. They are just a different place and understanding that your average NA player interacts and values very different things at a very basic level isn't some hallucination or fantasy. It's demonstrable.

If you think the Japanese violate all sense of what is the human condition, to the point of ignoring what's being stated in their very community forums, that's up to you. They don't care and neither should we. Regardless of country, culture, or even universe: Going "uwu pwease wetuwn mawnie datt we wont checck if u did or do anything for uwu" is going to have consistent failure rates across all of them.

Not that either of us will be able to validate that claim, I'm seeing you not understanding that their forums are , like ours, not representative of most of the player base. If the NA player base was anything like the people I meet here I would have stopped playing this game years ago.

Not to mention that, at least in JP, this is the community that sent knives to the studio over nonsense things. If you truly, genuinely believe there's going to be a significant return rate, then please. Give me your house. I promise I'll return it someday eventually. /s

Right there I see you making huge generalizations about a population based on 1 or 2 fanatical examples. Yes.. knives were sent to A studio... I can't even confirm it was the FFXIV studio and people use that excuse to be abusive because it couldn't possibly be the huge amounts of derision people post with... had to be those crazy Japanese fans with the knife mailing.


You can handwave all you like and make nonsensical unrelated sarcastic jabs.. but again and again Yoshi P's team or he himself make judgement calls and asks expecting people to follow socially responsible behaviors and being surprised when that doesn't happen.

[Hasrat]

It's less likely about being "out of touch," and far more likely being something that's simply not worth the effort to do. It's a problem effecting such a minute fraction of the player population, and a problem that, presumably, shouldn't crop up again afterward. Creating a system to chase down a few handfuls of stray gil would just be a wild waste of resources.

[Juyira]

My partner and I saw the announcement about people potentially getting free houses and we thought it was pretty nice that SE was doing that for people who got glitched, and we weren't even mad about it despite us being 50 mil in the hole since we were lucky enough to claim our house day one of the lottery results, since we still got to have our house for the last month while a lot of others had to wait this long. Plenty of houses in my own ward that only had one bidder on it but got hit with the 0 bug. Hell, I'm happy for those first time house owners if they get to keep their gil while getting the house, especially the smaller FCs, since it means they have ample decoration funds and all.

So I was a little surprised to see the anger here on the forums. But only a little.

[LaylaTsarra]

So I was a little surprised to see the anger here on the forums. But only a little.

Some are jealous others might get a free house yet the intent isn't there to give it away for free they are fully expecting people to pay the npc even though it will be an optional without penalty process where they won't lose the house if they don't.

I think the bottom line is that if they were to force people pay the restoration of the resumption of the lottery would have taken a lot longer. If they're talking 6.2 for the npc that would make a lot of people mad having to wait longer.

It's certainly not an optimal situation but probably the quickest solution to getting the sales back on track.

[EnigmaticDodo]

I don't know why some of you guys are fixating on this 'tHeY aRe JuSt JeAloUs' angle. No. The problem is they released a system they clearly didn't test and they are deciding to give people things for free when the current housing system is already atrocious. Its just a sh-- show.

Incase I happen to be jealous without my knowledge, I have a house in game already.

[RobynDaBank]

Some are jealous others might get a free house

I'm not jealous about it, but it is kinda bull. /shrug

[LaylaTsarra]

I'm not jealous about it, but it is kinda bull. /shrug

It's not really free they're expected to pay for it. It's left up to the individual to make that decision. The alternative was to hold up the housing restoration for a significantly longer time it appears or that NPC would be here now.

I'm not jealous either and I own multiple houses on different servers one of which I paid 50 million for on Sophia during this lottery.

Is it the optimal solution? No, I think people should pay for it and I'm sure there are those who won't but be that as it may I'll be happy to see the lottery back up and running again and for those few who got refunds and won well lets hope most of them will do the right thing and pay for the house they won.