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    About recent situation with SE....

    I know that already lot's of people talking about this. But I wanna ask you: Do you also had the feeling, all over the years, that everything get worse and quality went down since it's 'Square Enix'?
    I remember long time ago..., when we saw the name 'Squaresoft', there was no question if this game is worth buying it. Squaresoft stands somehow for 'good game'.
    But since it's Square Enix..., it's like the company lost it's soul. They start to produce too much and with too less quality imo.
    Also FF14 was a disaster before Yoshi P. saved it.

    In my personal opinion also FF series started to lose a little bit of it's soul since we lose Squaresoft.
    It was some kind of roundbased rpg with a big party, which let's us choose which chars we wanna fight with or see cutszenes with. Now it's more and more only action rpg and no big parties anymore. I wonder if FF16 also will end the Sci-Fi Fantasy genre. It seems to be medieval. But we know not much about it yet.

    I know it's stupid, but I wish the old Squaresoft could come back. The Squaresoft that just made a few games, but good games. Maybe I should pray hard and try to summon a primal for Squaresoft first, and later the one named Vierathgar that brings Viera and Hroth all the hats. :')
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    I don't completely agree.
    While I don't like the increased prices from Square I still love the quality of recent releases like Bravely Default and Neo.

    My biggest issue is their PC ports. They are very low effort low quality. I love that they bring back older games to play like Chrono Cross and Saga Frontier, I just wished they.. worked.
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    Yes the old games were really good. :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenchild View Post
    I know that already lot's of people talking about this. But I wanna ask you: Do you also had the feeling, all over the years, that everything get worse and quality went down since it's 'Square Enix'?
    I remember long time ago..., when we saw the name 'Squaresoft', there was no question if this game is worth buying it. Squaresoft stands somehow for 'good game'.
    But since it's Square Enix..., it's like the company lost it's soul. They start to produce too much and with too less quality imo.
    Also FF14 was a disaster before Yoshi P. saved it.
    Squaresoft was pretty terrible as well. Every now and thing they would produce a banger to keep the company a float, but a majority of there games were very bad.

    Go back and look at why the game is called Final Fantasy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenchild View Post
    In my personal opinion also FF series started to lose a little bit of it's soul since we lose Squaresoft.
    It was some kind of roundbased rpg with a big party, which let's us choose which chars we wanna fight with or see cutszenes with. Now it's more and more only action rpg and no big parties anymore. I wonder if FF16 also will end the Sci-Fi Fantasy genre. It seems to be medieval. But we know not much about it yet.
    Final Fantasy lost it's soul when the creator of Final Fantasy left the company. Final Fantasy 9 was the last Final Fantasy game that Sakaguchi wrote and directed and it shows as it is a huge tribute to all the past games NES and SNES FF games that came before it. FF10 was the last good Final Fantasy because Sakaguchi did assist with it's development behind the scenes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenchild View Post
    I know it's stupid, but I wish the old Squaresoft could come back. The Squaresoft that just made a few games, but good games. Maybe I should pray hard and try to summon a primal for Squaresoft first, and later the one named Vierathgar that brings Viera and Hroth all the hats. :')
    They made a lot of games you just don't know about them because a good number of them were not ported over to NA because they were bad. Partnering with Enix was bound to happen eventually as they had already worked on a multitude of projects together such as Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross. They would also be able to benefit off being a single company with the two most popular RPG franchises in Japan, Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest.
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    I know why it's called 'Final' Fantasy. But at least they had a lot of good games people love until today.
    I agree that FFX was the last really good singleplayer one. And it was the first FF that I ever played. Later I also played the older ones and liked them a lot.
    But the games after FFX....well...
    FFXIII was the first game ever I did not play through. :X

    I know that not everything was ported. But I am from EU btw. :3
    Atm I am at least very worried about what's happening with SE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashliet View Post
    I don't completely agree.
    While I don't like the increased prices from Square I still love the quality of recent releases like Bravely Default and Neo.

    My biggest issue is their PC ports. They are very low effort low quality. I love that they bring back older games to play like Chrono Cross and Saga Frontier, I just wished they.. worked.
    Bravely Default was nearly 10 years ago bro...
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    Quote Originally Posted by weebtext View Post
    Bravely Default was nearly 10 years ago bro...
    I believe they mean Bravely Default 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I believe they mean Bravely Default 2.
    Impossible, BD2 was a stain on the franchise!
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    Quote Originally Posted by weebtext View Post
    Impossible, BD2 was a stain on the franchise!
    Compared to the previous games, yes. As a standalone it was pretty good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenchild View Post
    I know it's stupid, but I wish the old Squaresoft could come back. The Squaresoft that just made a few games, but good games. Maybe I should pray hard and try to summon a primal for Squaresoft first, and later the one named Vierathgar that brings Viera and Hroth all the hats. :')
    It's not stupid. Everyone gets a bout of nostalgia from time to time. However, it is unrealistic to think that a long running mmo has had its success through stasis. It just doesn't work that way.

    Whether the game has gotten better or worse is subjective, but the FFXIV of today is without question much different from the FFXIV I joined seven years ago. If I didn't adapt to the multitude of changes over that course of time, I would have stopped playing a very long time ago. I am not someone who lives in the past, so you won't see many comments from me pining for the return of something that was removed or changed. I am actually the opposite, and always looking towards the horizon.

    Because of that, when I find myself wanting for better times, I often lose sight of the good things I have at the moment. Don't be like me.
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