Results 1 to 10 of 368

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Magikazam's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2022
    Posts
    368
    Character
    Omori Oatmeal
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    If you see "LGBTQ+ friendly" as "no straights", then you have some serious self thinking to do. Do you see "handicap accessible" as "only disabled" people as well? If the answer is no, ask yourself why you see "LGBTQ+ friendly" as wanting no straights, ask yourself why you THINK it's that way. Do you think it's because you yourself would exclude those people and expect them to do the same to you? Are you uncomfortable because you're scared of finding out you yourself are in fact not straight? Are you terrified of having your own world views challenged? Or do you just not want to have to come to terms with the fact that some minorities are still fighting to keep their own rights and lives safe, and that the world is in fact a hell of a lot more intolerant than you thought?
    Your attitude is the one I expect from people who feel the need to design themselves as ''LGBTQ+ friendly'' and it is the reason why some people want to avoid those kinds of groups.
    (3)

  2. #2
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    New Gridania
    Posts
    5,465
    Character
    Hayk Farsight
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    Your attitude is the one I expect from people who feel the need to design themselves as ''LGBTQ+ friendly'' and it is the reason why some people want to avoid those kinds of groups.
    Talk to me when you've been bullied, harassed, ostracized by family, treated like crap, and actively beaten up irl for being something other than straight. This stuff still happens to this day to people, so having the indicator that the space is friendly for the LGBTQ+ people is important. Acceptance is the main thing people want here, and there's a hell of a lot of people who won't accept LGBTQ+ people in this day and age.
    (7)

  3. #3
    Player
    Magikazam's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2022
    Posts
    368
    Character
    Omori Oatmeal
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Talk to me when you've been bullied, harassed, ostracized by family, treated like crap, and actively beaten up irl for being something other than straight. This stuff still happens to this day to people, so having the indicator that the space is friendly for the LGBTQ+ people is important. Acceptance is the main thing people want here, and there's a hell of a lot of people who won't accept LGBTQ+ people in this day and age.
    Relevance? Just because some have suffered more than me in some case don't make their issues more real or impactful than others. The mainstream media accepted the LGBTQ+ movement and it viewed as a bad thing to be homophobic. Creating a safe space just creates another gap between those who are LGBTQ+ and those who ain't. IMO doing those kinds of thing just contribute to the problem you're trying to solve instead of helping against it. If you keep this toxic passive-aggressive of yours, maybe you ain't a victim.
    (6)

  4. #4
    Player
    Cyd3l's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    66
    Character
    Cydel Noa
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    Relevance? Just because some have suffered more than me in some case don't make their issues more real or impactful than others. The mainstream media accepted the LGBTQ+ movement and it viewed as a bad thing to be homophobic. Creating a safe space just creates another gap between those who are LGBTQ+ and those who ain't. IMO doing those kinds of thing just contribute to the problem you're trying to solve instead of helping against it. If you keep this toxic passive-aggressive of yours, maybe you ain't a victim.
    Straight people are not being excluded from these groups? They are not making an LGBTQ+ EXCLUSIVE community, they are making one that is open to all while noting specifically that LGBTQ+ lifestyles will be welcome. Why do people keep assuming its exclusionary of cis/hetero people?
    (5)

  5. #5
    Player
    Magikazam's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2022
    Posts
    368
    Character
    Omori Oatmeal
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Cyd3l View Post
    Straight people are not being excluded from these groups? They are not making an LGBTQ+ EXCLUSIVE community, they are making one that is open to all while noting specifically that LGBTQ+ lifestyles will be welcome. Why do people keep assuming its exclusionary of cis/hetero people?
    No, but as soon as I give my 2 cents about safe space (And not against LGBTQ+ people mind you) I'm being told that I'm straight so I haven't suffered like them and that my opinion doesn't count. So yea, I will take a wild guess and say they ain't that much straight friendly if they assume I am as soon as I disagree slightly with them.
    (1)

  6. #6
    Player
    Cyd3l's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    66
    Character
    Cydel Noa
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    Your attitude is the one I expect from people who feel the need to design themselves as ''LGBTQ+ friendly'' and it is the reason why some people want to avoid those kinds of groups.
    Then they should avoid those groups, that's the whole point, so people can find an FC that aligns with their interests.
    (6)