Japanese FFXIV streamer receives a suspension for using add-ons.

[Amenara]

And then there'll be the no-nuance people who interpret that as an allowance of mods after all and as discouragement of reporting.

I should have been more exacting in my wording, the ones promoting mass reporting of streamers should also be on the same level of receiving of a ban for targeted attacks.

[Ransu]

Sounds like all the mass reporters should get a ban for harassment and targeted attacks at streamers then...

Technically yes, abusing the report system is a something you can get banned for...the problem is their reports, regardless of the harassment, do have legitimacy to them because it does break the TOS. I disagree with the outcome, but at the same time SE was stuck because if they did nothing then people would just take that as SE not enforcing their TOS.

[Amenara]

Technically yes, abusing the report system is a something you can get banned for...the problem is their reports, regardless of the harassment, do have legitimacy to them because it does break the TOS. I disagree with the outcome, but at the same time SE was stuck because if they did nothing then people would just take that as SE not enforcing their TOS.

I mean, SE not enforcing their TOS is nothing new. Problem is that they only enforce it when it is convenient to them which is where this whole problem started.

[juicybug]

honestly he deserved it

he kicked the proverbial hornets nest and got stung. he has 0 common sense.

[Chiyeko]

Problem is SE is now looking to make QoL of UI/Hud after these recent ban, and tbh UI/Hud should have been improve, there wouldn't be third party tools if SE didn't use UI/Hud since heavenward with slight improvement to it.

[IdowhatIwant]

honestly he deserved it

he kicked the proverbial hornets nest and got stung. he has 0 common sense.

How did he kick a hornets nest... He was minding his own business doing ultimates.

Problem is SE is now looking to make QoL of UI/Hud after these recent ban, and tbh UI/Hud should have been improve, there wouldn't be third party tools if SE didn't use UI/Hud since heavenward with slight improvement to it.

This is the part I find the most messed up with what SE did. They banned the dude and said we will add these features you are using at a later time. Why not a warning with a 1 day ban, then the ToS reminder they gave out.

[Jaquan]

How did he kick a hornets nest... He was minding his own business doing ultimates.



This is the part I find the most messed up with what SE did. They banned the dude and said we will add these features you are using at a later time. Why not a warning with a 1 day ban, then the ToS reminder they gave out.

He was minding his own business, doing ultimates on a stream with his mods visible. Exact thing we were told NOT to do.

Also... They made the announcement before he was banned and the fact they are going to learn from mods doesn't suddenly make them unbannable.

[IdowhatIwant]

He was minding his own business, doing ultimates on a stream with his mods visible. Exact thing we were told NOT to do.

Also... They made the announcement before he was banned and the fact they are going to learn from mods doesn't suddenly make them unbannable.

Okay, that doesn't change that he was still minding his own business and a group of random people decided to report him. If the ToS was enforced harder on streamers in the past, this wouldn't be a point of controversy at all. There is nothing wrong with a friendly reminder of what the ToS is, but the route SE went was nothing but stirring a pot, by harshly enforcing the ToS suddenly, not congratulating the teams for Ultimate clears, and questioning the validity of a unofficial world first race. If they had some sort of prize money on it, and this was an official race sure SE should take a harder look into this. This is not though, it's a unofficial world first race, that literally no one is going to care about by next week. Bad Company decisions are bad company decisions and SE has made a lot of those so far this year.

A warning and a day ban is still a ban is it not? It is still enforcing the ToS as well. Sure we all agreed to the ToS but it doesn't mean it shouldn't be criticized as well. Specially went some very simple UI features are not in the game, like the buff timers on the party list, viewing what your crit chance or DH chance is, or seeing what your stats are actually contributing to your character numerically. Nothing is ever perfect nor will it ever be.

How hard are you going to continue simp for this company that doesn't care about you in the slightest.

[Scaramouche]

You can't just let streamers playing with mods knowingly and only step up when there is harassments involved for years and then suddenly ban them in the middle of an ultimate.

Especially when they did nothing when some WoW players used more mods than the person blindly simping for SE has pronouns.

[SaberMaxwell]

If the point of "no third party" is to prevent harassment, but instead the tos is being used as a tool to harass, then maybe it's time to revisit the original point of the policy since what it set out to accomplish isn't being accomplished.