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    Not just salt... but Veruca Salt

    on another matter....

    Quote Originally Posted by KariTheFox View Post
    ...I think even something as simple as exclusive title like "Generous Donator" would be enough...
    There is a section of the achievement hunting playerbase who would fret that this title was forever out of their reach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Not just salt... but Veruca Salt

    on another matter....



    There is a section of the achievement hunting playerbase who would fret that this title was forever out of their reach.
    Yeah, I just think upsetting the people who care about exclusive titles is a better idea than upsetting the people who care about exclusive mounts or pets. Since I think the intended goal is to remove gold from circulation, you gotta give players a reason to.

    Though another option could be to reward people with a big fat stack of moogle tomestones that you could use to buy mounts or pets that could be obtained elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KariTheFox View Post
    ...Since I think the intended goal is to remove gold from circulation...
    I don't think that's the goal. It's purpose is more likely to be as a way assuage the guilt some would have if they had a house for free.

    Nothing more is needed than the NPC say "thank you very much".

    Edit: I'd love for the NPC to be attached to the orphanage in Idyllshire, and a Miqitte'n be the one to say thank you. Nothing in return but a smile. (And also something unlocked later so everyone could experience for any amount of gil.)
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    Last edited by Shibi; 05-14-2022 at 10:29 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    I don't think that's the goal. It's purpose is more likely to be as a way assuage the guilt some would have if they had a house for free.

    Nothing more is needed than the NPC say "thank you very much".
    This is totally a Japanese Culture vs. Western Culture thing.

    Japan will give the money out of guilt.

    West will give the money but they need something in return, like an Achievement. Otherwise why would they?

    EDIT: In response to your edit, very wholesome. Make the M'kitten take donations for that Children's Hospital in U'ldah that only appears once a year.
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    Last edited by Maxilor; 05-14-2022 at 10:31 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilor View Post
    This is totally a Japanese Culture vs. Western Culture thing
    Na it's not. Heaps of people on the JP forums saying they will keep it, with likes. And heaps of people on Reddit saying they will hand it back or they would feel guilty.

    I dont think you can generalise it as a west vs east thing - without it just being a generalisation.

    Me... I will hand a large chunk of it to sprouts, to help them on their journey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Na it's not. Heaps of people on the JP forums saying they will keep it, with likes. And heaps of people on Reddit saying they will hand it back or they would feel guilty.

    I dont think you can generalise it as a west vs east thing - without it just being a generalisation.
    True, I guess I should have said SquareEnix as a Japanese Developer expects people to adhere to some kind of Honor System. I'm still wrapping my head around it. I'm happy to just consider it a form of compensation for their mistake and just wipe my hands of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilor View Post
    This is totally a Japanese Culture vs. Western Culture thing.
    Japan will give the money out of guilt.
    Weebs need to stop idolizing the Japanese community.

    There are plenty of examples where JP acts the same as their NA/EU counterparts if not worse:

    1. Since this is related to housing, people to this day claim that buying out wards/house hoarding/shell FCs is a NA/EU thing. The honorable JP would never do such a thing. Lodestone data shows that JP has a similar amount of bought out wards/house hoarding and shell FCs.

    2. Some of the most popular JP house designers own multiple houses. But yet NA/EU people don't seem to have a problem with that.

    3. Some NA people claim that NA is loud and toxic - JP can equally be toxic with community blacklists to ostracize and bully people.

    I hope SE publishes the statistics of who returned the gil and includes things like region etc

    tldr: There are good and bad people in all countries. Stop idolizing Japanese culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    Stop idolizing Japanese culture.
    Never did. As I elaborated in my follow up message what I meant was that Square Enix as a Japanese Company expects people to adhere to an Honor System.

    A Western Developer would have just snatched the money back.

    Also, cool it with the insults. It will get you farther in life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilor View Post
    Never did. As I elaborated in my follow up message what I meant was that Square Enix as a Japanese Company expects people to adhere to an Honor System.

    A Western Developer would have just snatched the money back.

    Also, cool it with the insults. It will get you farther in life.
    Lol, you're still making generalizations.

    Having played MMOs by other JP companies, those companies would have snatched the gil back.

    I've also played Western and non-JP MMOs where the companies would have the done similar to what SE has done.

    Stop idolizing JP culture.

    Really hoping SE publishes the statistics of who returned the gil and includes things like region in the data.
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    Last edited by TwistedTea; 05-14-2022 at 11:14 AM.