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  1. #31
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    I'll be honest, I don't miss the old style faerie with ghosting abilities and just plain unresponsive AI. Also sucked when they would get stuck in an AOE and eat it then you have to summon another one. I do miss a lot of the other abilities though, Shadow Flare in particular. I felt like in dungeon situations the slow effect acted as another form of damage mitigation.
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  2. #32
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    Elodie Claire
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    I don't personally think any healer is paticularly interesting right now. They're all loaded up with these egregiously bloated kits that are only used in a handful of encounters, namely Savage 3/4 and Ultimates.

    Outside of the filler heal and a signature move or two, it's largely the same with varying levels of QoL (I would agree that even after numerous upgrades the fairy still feels a bit odd for the lack of oomph she has)


    I would give anything for the role to be more interesting to play in easier content. It's my number one wish for this game... that and more difficult dungeons, which Yoshi P says I shouldn't want because I'm a healer (?).
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    Last edited by Mapleine; 05-14-2022 at 04:25 PM.

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    Gisela Thorne
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    Quote Originally Posted by D6Damager View Post
    That's my point. You don't need to communicate it; as the game does it for you.
    Be honest here, can you actually remember why the fairies are related military strategy without looking it up? Like how that logically followed, not just "the lore just says it does". SCH was my main healer for the longest time, and I can't.
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    Laz Ravenheart
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    I have to admit I agree with a lot that's been said here. I've mained Scholar since ARR but when Endwalker came, I dropped it. Yeah, the new abilities weren't that bad and the fairy AI is better but...it was too little too late. I stayed Scholar in Shadowbringers out of spite and that spite burned me out of loving Scholar. So I went Sage but even though Sage felt smooth it wasn't as fun so now I am running as Astro.

    Scholar has lost so much of it's identity over the years. Regardless of how well it performs, it's just no longer fun to play like it used to be. I mean I don't know how to fix it but the original gutting of the DPS rotation was like a kick in the gut. It makes me sad. Especially since it seems none of the devs play healer and seem to understand what people love about it. It is seriously hurting healer design over all and presents a major problem for if they want to release a new healer. Are they going to release another shield or pure healer? Another hybrid like AST was? They're setting themselves up for future failure.
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  5. #35
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    Draygomir Wrothlasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    Be honest here, can you actually remember why the fairies are related military strategy without looking it up? Like how that logically followed, not just "the lore just says it does".
    Yes, because I just recently started over on a new data center and have recently played through it again. It's explained in the cut scenes.
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    "Wherever you go, there you are." ~ Buckaroo Bonzai

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    Noah Orih
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mapleine View Post
    I don't personally think any healer is paticularly interesting right now. They're all loaded up with these egregiously bloated kits that are only used in a handful of encounters, namely Savage 3/4 and Ultimates.

    Outside of the filler heal and a signature move or two, it's largely the same with varying levels of QoL (I would agree that even after numerous upgrades the fairy still feels a bit odd for the lack of oomph she has)


    I would give anything for the role to be more interesting to play in easier content. It's my number one wish for this game... that and more difficult dungeons, which Yoshi P says I shouldn't want because I'm a healer (?).
    Well we are getting Criterion dungeons sometime either at or after 6.2, so we'll get to see what that experience is like. One thing that I like about 4-man content generally is single target healing tends to have greater value, and that will be especially nice for Kardia-swapping I imagine. I honestly find Kardia more fun in dungeons than in Savage. No telling what the actual experience will be like, though.

    Ironically, I feel like despite its shear lackluster performance, WHM has become one of the more fun healers to actually play now that you can use your GCD for something other than Glare on rare occasions. It's not much, but healers have been living off breadcrumbs over the last several years and now someone's dropped 1 whole crust.
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  7. #37
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    Grim Gaelasch
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    Without looking it up, here is what I sorta remember about SCH lore:

    Arcanists use the "Arcanima", in essence they use geometric patterns, sigils and magic writting to "program" aether into specific forms and functions, essentially a sort of simplified or "degenerated" form of the Ancient's creation magics. Carbuncle is the first construct an Arcanist makes. Bio and Miasma are also constructs, essentially programmed viruses or bacteria that only exist for a very short time, causing damage to the target.

    Scholar is the "military " application of the Arcanima arts following the ancient tradition of the Scholars of Nym, a city state that fought against Mhach and ended up succumbing to a Mhachi plague that turned everybody into Tonberry. The scholars of Nyhm were brilliant military strategists that would use their Arcanist magicks to support their troups in battle, stratagems to direct them efficiently against their enemy and weakening magicks to deblitate their foes.

    Your fairy is an aetherial construct, just like Carbuncle, born from the SCH soul crystal. A robot made of aether that grows and learns along the scholar. I forgot why it takes the shape of a Fairy or why SCH has a bunch of fairy themed abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    Without looking it up, here is what I sorta remember about SCH lore:

    Arcanists use the "Arcanima", in essence they use geometric patterns, sigils and magic writting to "program" aether into specific forms and functions, essentially a sort of simplified or "degenerated" form of the Ancient's creation magics. Carbuncle is the first construct an Arcanist makes. Bio and Miasma are also constructs, essentially programmed viruses or bacteria that only exist for a very short time, causing damage to the target.

    Scholar is the "military " application of the Arcanima arts following the ancient tradition of the Scholars of Nym, a city state that fought against Mhach and ended up succumbing to a Mhachi plague that turned everybody into Tonberry. The scholars of Nyhm were brilliant military strategists that would use their Arcanist magicks to support their troups in battle, stratagems to direct them efficiently against their enemy and weakening magicks to deblitate their foes.

    Your fairy is an aetherial construct, just like Carbuncle, born from the SCH soul crystal. A robot made of aether that grows and learns along the scholar. I forgot why it takes the shape of a Fairy or why SCH has a bunch of fairy themed abilities.



    Aren't they actual living beings? Lily has a personality, though I could be misinterpreting this.
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  9. #39
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    Hyohyona Hyona
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    Hmm, I assume these faeries are like the elementals found in Eureka. But instead of looking like semi-formless creatures, they can shape themselves to recognizable forms due to being tied to the soul crystal. They do seem to have a mind of their own based on several cutscenes.

    Anyways. Personally I like how the current kit is built. It's like a swiss army knife, it does a little bit of everything. I wouldn't mind Aetherflow being reworked though. If you want to get rid of Energy Drain from it, the MP gain from Aetherflow should be removed and given to something else.
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post



    Aren't they actual living beings? Lily has a personality, though I could be misinterpreting this.
    Apparently so. I honestly forgot about that. Though it doesn't really explain where the Fairies come from and in fact...Doesn't that mean that Scholars effectively enslaved sentient beings to act as healers in battle?
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