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    DanielNegreanu_Adamantoise's Avatar
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    Daniel Negreanu
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    What if Shield Bash were aoe stun ogcd? (NOT pvp)

    What if bois, what if?

    Would be a decent dungeon trash mit for early tanking.

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    Hysorn's Avatar
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    Laudrian Ravenstorm
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanielNegreanu_Adamantoise View Post
    What if bois, what if?

    Would be a decent dungeon trash mit for early tanking.

    I would honestly be fine if it was just oGCD in general, the skill feels useless as it is.
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    I am surprised it hasn't been Axed yet like yeah it strong in ARR when some bosses can be stunned but also just ARR stuff so not really a big deal.

    personally id like shield bash just to become a 2 charge damage OGCD and just take the damage off the gap closer
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    Last edited by Duskane; 05-10-2022 at 03:33 PM.

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    Tiana Vestoria
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    The only use it really has is the specific niche case in higher deep dungeon floors where you run into a mimic, or other actually dangerous mobs, while your oGCDs are disabled, that's pretty much it.
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    No Lets say we didnt and move on
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    Free the Glam!, Duel Pistols (Gunner)?

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    Seku Halvone
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    Wouldn't change much unless encounter design is changed for pld. The only tank that would benefit from an AoE stun at the moment is probably DRK due to their lack of self sustain, which they'd do better with just better self sustain.
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    Last edited by Seku; 05-11-2022 at 05:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seku View Post
    Wouldn't change much unless encounter design is changed for pld. The only tank that would benefit from an AoE stun at the moment is probably DRK due to their lack of self sustain, which they'd do better with just better self sustain.
    ? would be a pretty big boon in earlier content, remember pre-EW content exists.
    And it would never stop being useful in trash pulls, would be free mit like a super arms length
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanielNegreanu_Adamantoise View Post
    ? would be a pretty big boon in earlier content, remember pre-EW content exists.
    And it would never stop being useful in trash pulls, would be free mit like a super arms length
    Wouldn't be a pretty big boon at all. Tanks take little damage and healers can near hp cap a tank in 1 GCD at lower end content. Would it be useful in trash packs? Yeah. Would it really change much as to how you'd pull and currently play current and old content? No.

    Would it save the healer time and allow them to dps? In theory yes. In reality probably not because no one coronadites trash pulls and a general strategy is used instead. This is the same reason why Living dead sucked in dungeons.

    Shield bash and Cover both should be removed from the game as Low Blow and Interception have mostly replaced them. This would lower "button bloat".

    The only thing that needs to change on PLD is the weird conditions to gain access to our party mitigation tools and allowing us to benefit from out Divine Veil shielding and not just the party. A larger goal would be to actually increase the amount of shielding from DV to be on par with base Shake if off from warrior.
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    Last edited by Seku; 05-14-2022 at 06:32 AM.

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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    Back in the day when PLD brought little to no damage in AoE I suggested they keep it a GCD but make it an AoE stun. Essentially the PLD would fill the role of the WHMs holy in any party that doesn’t have a WHM so the healer can dps more while the PLD stuns and clemencies.

    I still think it’s a nice idea but PLD has since become a lot more powerful in AoE to the point that it’s probably better for them to just use their rotation than gimp their damage for a stun lock.
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    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

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    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

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    Tatsuya Sarugaku
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    Pld most useless skill, so yeah I'd agree. There isnt a single situation where you need two stuns back to back, and youd never use the GCD for one with Low Blow existing
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