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  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukinaErde View Post
    People are free to say whatever they want, just like I and others are free to say that those people are hateful phobic bigots for saying what they did. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequence.
    Lmao obviously. And the consequences of your rebuttal was showing how intolerant you can be.
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  2. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForbiddenMonk View Post
    Lmao obviously. And the consequences of your rebuttal was showing how intolerant you can be.
    I have no tolerance for those who are lgbtphobic. Why would I or anyone tolerate those who constantly spew and perpetuate such hate and violence against some of the most marginalized and at risk groups of people on the planet?
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukinaErde View Post
    I have no tolerance for those who are lgbtphobic. Why would I or anyone tolerate those who constantly spew and perpetuate such hate and violence against some of the most marginalized and at risk groups of people on the planet?
    Good to know you’re intolerant of different views. Pretty much the definition of a bigot, btw.
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    Last edited by ForbiddenMonk; 05-13-2022 at 05:40 AM.

  4. #114
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    I see OP played their hand in the last few pages of the thread lol.

    When it comes to this issue, the reality is it's just a bunch of people getting irrationally frustrated/annoyed at LGBTQ+ visibility, and then making bad faith arguments or weird generalizations that attempt to conceal their unreasonable motivations. OP is a great example, initially pretending he totally just thinks it's redundant, but going on to agree with someone who is being openly hostile and posting "muh freeze peach" garbage.

    It's not hard to understand why a trans person might not want to inadvertently join an FC where an officer is openly making jokes about trans suicide rates. Being able to join a group that has LGBTQ+ friendly almost certainly gives them the option to avoid that.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForbiddenMonk View Post
    Good to know you’re intolerant of different views
    calling lgbtphobia "different views" really just drives home the fact you are one of them. I urge you to try and be a better person.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    I see OP played their hand in the last few pages of the thread lol.

    When it comes to this issue, the reality is it's just a bunch of people getting irrationally frustrated/annoyed at LGBTQ+ visibility, and then making bad faith arguments or weird generalizations that attempt to conceal their unreasonable motivations. OP is a great example, initially pretending he totally just thinks it's redundant, but going on to agree with someone who is being openly hostile and posting "muh freeze peach" garbage.

    It's not hard to understand why a trans person might not want to inadvertently join an FC where an officer is openly making jokes about trans suicide rates. Being able to join a group that has LGBTQ+ friendly almost certainly gives them the option to avoid that.
    There's a reason I wanted them to post some more.

    Quoted more as agreement, to be honest.
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  7. #117
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    Just let them advertise as whatever their hearts desire as long as they are not mistreating others. Is it necessary or productive? not really, but if you don't like it just ignore.
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    R.I.P samurai main 2022 - REAPER TIME!

  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForbiddenMonk View Post
    No, I’m not making fun of trans people. I’m making fun of snowflakes that get upset over just about anything. You’re the intolerant one for thinking I’m talking about transgender. Get out of here bigot..

    I am just going to say this. Why let anything someone else is advertising upset you THIS much? :/ Maybe learn to live and let live?
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    Wise men speak because the have something to say, fools because they have to say something. - Plato - He saw the ff forums apparently.

  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vav2021 View Post
    According to the rules, at https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...5382&kid=68216 ,


    To which the first example is

    And I understand that they punish for off-game behavior. as well, so treating people like garbage outside of the game is punishable.

    With all this being said, it almost seems redundant to advertise "LGBTQ+ friendly" in a game where you are required to tolerate it both on and off the game, seeing as how guilds that aren't friendly would be punished.

    Is it redundant, or is it warranted even with the rules being as explicit as they are about a zero tolerance (on and off game) about it?
    As a gay man myself I personally feel more welcomed when the FC actively advertises LGBTQ+ friendly, so although it might be redundant in the eyes of some, it's defnitely a nice detail.
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  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    I see OP played their hand in the last few pages of the thread lol.
    What do you mean?
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