Japanese FFXIV streamer receives a suspension for using add-ons.

[Sebazy]

WELP. They're definitely sharing, streaming may not be "talking" about it, but you're letting literally millions of people potentially see it, and I mean.....you can track someone's cooldowns? And you're using ACT? What reason are you using those mods other than *to* shame someone?

The easiest case in point:

I'm a healer, my swift cast is down, someone else promptly eats a marker and dies.

A) We both say 'no swiftcast' on TS, I start hard casting the raise without the need to wait.

B) I spot their swiftcast is on CD, I start the hard cast raise without the need to wait.

These both use a 3rd party program to quickly let me gauge information I 'shouldn't' be privy to which in turn helps me make a decision quicker to gain an advantage in content.

Yet one is absolutely fine, the other is a 10 day ban and a permanent mark on your account.

Why?

[Theodric]

Unfortunately there are a lot of people in the FFXIV community who insist on hunting down and trying to 'punish' players for all sorts of weird reasons. I've had to get in touch with the authorities both in-game and outside of it at various points to help deal with nutters who tried to hunt me down over liking and disliking the 'wrong' characters in the story. So I don't doubt that the efforts to get streamers banned for using third party addons is little more than feigned concern.

[Lihtleita]

what are the chances people will mass report statics during the next ult race to gain an advantage or just because it will be funny?

[Insertusernamehere]

Next step ban gaming mouse and keyboard users, my gaming mouse technically cheat, it can do guaranteed double wave all the time.
Also ban stop watch / alarm users, important mechanics can be programmed on your phone with sound alert (arguably better than 3rd party) because you can select important ones.
Ban post-it users they take notes about important mechanics and time lines and stick to monitor.

Feels like "SE opens Pandora's box" and clueless what they will do next :3

[Jaquan]

The easiest case in point:

I'm a healer, my swift cast is down, someone else promptly eats a marker and dies.

A) We both say 'no swiftcast' on TS, I start hard casting the raise without the need to wait.

B) I spot their swiftcast is on CD, I start the hard cast raise without the need to wait.

These both use a 3rd party program to quickly let me gauge information I 'shouldn't' be privy to which in turn helps me make a decision quicker to gain an advantage in content.

Yet one is absolutely fine, the other is a 10 day ban and a permanent mark on your account.

Why?

I'll bite. Case A has you obtain the information directly from another player without using a tool that modifies the game.
Case B has the information displayed to you by reading it directly from game files in the form that natively isn't available to you.

Let me ask you this. You need 100$. You can either:
A) Ask your friend to lend that sum, promising to rerurn it once you're able
B) Take it from their wallet without asking, deciding to put insame amount back once you can.
Both will net you 100$ but only one is socially acceptable.

[Skiros]

I'll bite. Case A has you obtain the information directly from another player without using a tool that modifies the game.
Case B has the information displayed to you by reading it directly from game files in the form that natively isn't available to you.

Let me ask you this. You need 100$. You can either:
A) Ask your friend to lend that sum, promising to rerurn it once you're able
B) Take it from their wallet without asking, deciding to put insame amount back once you can.
Both will net you 100$ but only one is socially acceptable.

What an asinine analogy.

[Jaquan]

What an asinine analogy.

Why thank you.

But speaking seriously and without dumb analogies this time around. Case A in post I cited is a byproduct of socializing within the game and working towards common goal. We share informations with one another be it by chat or voice chat in order to better coordinate our actions. In second case we forgo social aspect and modify the game files to give us access to information on other player that is by design hidden from us. Similar end doesn't equalize the means of reaching it.

[Sebazy]

I'll bite. Case A has you obtain the information directly from another player without using a tool that modifies the game.
Case B has the information displayed to you by reading it directly from game files in the form that natively isn't available to you.

Let me ask you this. You need 100$. You can either:
A) Ask your friend to lend that sum, promising to rerurn it once you're able
B) Take it from their wallet without asking, deciding to put insame amount back once you can.
Both will net you 100$ but only one is socially acceptable.

Eh, that's not socially acceptable because B is literal theft. That's not what's happening here. Claiming one method is providing data to me that's not natively available is kind of false too. Both methods are doing this, one is via voice, the other is via my UI. And then there's the disparity in stances between both of them which is arguably the biggest issue here.

A fairer comparison would be a workplace rota. I want to schedule a task to be done on a specific day.

A) My colleagues tell me who's in. I plan accordingly.

B) I look at the rota and plan accordingly.

The game files narrative that's being pushed is a bad take because it ignores using things like hotkey software to avoid the anti afk timer or sit around auto crafting all night. Neither which need to modify the game in any way and are even further removed from the client than Steam or Discord's overlays and features, yet these are far more disruptive to the game, it's community and the economy as a whole than the UI mods that have gotten some of these streamers banned.

[Saraide]

what are the chances people will mass report statics during the next ult race to gain an advantage or just because it will be funny?

I give teams reporting each other a low chance of actually happening. Your probably need a few more people than 8 to report spam and more importantly, the only thing WF racers are doing it for is for community recognition. There is no prize that you win, just clout. You will absolutely forever ruin any clout you ever had or will have if it becomes known that your team resorts to that level of fighting.

Mass reports like that happening from outside malicious forums is however always possible of course. There's no telling when they will be upset enough to start flinging reports again. These hyper toxic forums can not be trusted and SE should instruct the GMs to punish report brigades like that if they become obvious.

[Scaramouche]

tool that modifies the game.

Defining Third Party Tools

We have received requests from players asking that we define what tools are and aren’t permissible, but to do so would require an assessment of all third-party tools available on the internet, as well as all gaming devices and their functionality. Unfortunately, such an undertaking is physically impossible, which is why we decided to simply prohibit the use of all third-party tools and software.

By the same token, it is impossible for us to check what programs are installed on every player’s PC. This is why we cannot identify and reprimand offenders 100% of the time. To offer more clarity on our process, here are a few examples of the rule violations we prioritize for investigation:

Use of tools that allow players to more easily complete content.

Modification of the UI to display additional information.*

Use of packet spoofing tools.

Any actions or public statements that promote use of third-party tools.

All reports of such activity warrant investigation, and accounts determined to be in violation of the game’s terms of service will be suspended or banned. Unless there is a significant change to the terms of service─which would be publicly announced─this rule remains as-is.


https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...0c5d56cb2e4547


At no point they are saying 3rd party tools are only ones modifying game files.