Just give us a list of what addons we can use.

[Semirhage]

This community, I swear. Acting indignant as if even thinking about modding a game makes you a baby-eater. The TOS is a legal document, not a religious text.

[Folsom]

This community, I swear. Acting indignant as if even thinking about modding a game makes you a baby-eater. The TOS is a legal document, not a religious text.

That sounds exactly like something someone who named themselves after a member of the forsaken, one of the most evil people in the Wheel of Time series, would say. "They're just breaking the rules. Why so salty? Oh, uh, be right back. Just need to loosen the seals on the Dark One's prison a little bit. Kill Rand while I'm gone!"

[Aelin_Ashryver]

This community, I swear. Acting indignant as if even thinking about modding a game makes you a baby-eater. The TOS is a legal document, not a religious text.

Certainly not baby eaters. I see plenty sharing similar sentiment to mine, you do you and keep it to yourself. This has been the general consensus for a while and it went out the window recently for streamers. What the 5chan peeps are doing is petty af, but they wouldn't have the ammo if the streamer hadn't handed it to them on a silver platter. And even besides that, the JP console players have a fair point to be angry about, PC players gave themselves significant advantages over someone playing purely on console. When it comes to something as competitive as a world first ofc they will be mad and ofc the rest of the time no1 gives a crap because nothing is at stake.

Some of the community, like me, are bemused at people losing their mind over getting punished (or the threat of punishment seeing the ban on streamer) after they literally live stream themselves breaking ToS on a world first race. As Yoshi P has said, they do not know what we are running on our PC, they do not check and they do not WANT to check. So ultimately its a huge chunk of people getting butthurt on behalf of a couple streamers being banned for knowingly flaunting their rule breaking when they are at no real risk themselves unless they too decide to record and broadcast their own breaking of ToS.

[Grebeny]

OK, just few examples why that can't happen.

Right now there are mods that show you the prices of items in the entire data center. The cheat engine can make players to sit everywhere by sending fake packages to the server, harmless, but do you know what else data is sent to the server or taken to be uploaded somehwere else, if SE agrees to approve some addons/mods, they would need to monitor them 24/7. And lets say they agree officially on some stuff. They need to be and quality control on them, if they accept DPS meter, people would asume the DPS meter is showing proper information, at this point no DPS meter shows exact information and that is fine because it is not officially approved. BTW with the current battle log, precise dps meter cannot be created, so if SE wants to approve something to legalize it, they will need to change how the game works too, and I don't see that happening for third party tools.

And don't understand me wrong, I am not against quality of life changes, just addon/modding is not the way to go. During the years Square enix were very responsive to player base requests, I see no reason for players to stop requesting improvements on the UI and other acpects of the game. Xeno did good point of things that need to be improved, like option to have bigger numbers on the skill cooldown (I play on huge monitor and for me as it is, is fine, but I understand not everyone have that luxary), timers on party member buffs, personally I can't think of a reason why I care, but still it will be improvement to have option to see them. Chat bubbles, I personally hate them and I hate battles that have them in the middle of the screen(something they need to make optional too), but I understand why people love this idea and want it as an option.

And lets be clear, streamers that were banned used addons that were giving them advantage. No matter how much Xeno tries to protect it. Seeing the other players CDs, seeing when you are able to move during cast, using AI call outs for mechanics are all tools that give you quite an advantage, if not I am 100% sure they would not use them in the first place. BTW not only that, you can track the topic from even before the savages were released when people started to notice the higher amount of mods on some streams that started to pop up. And everyone were like "naah, Square enix will not be brave enough to ban streamer".

[Jaquan]

This community, I swear. Acting indignant as if even thinking about modding a game makes you a baby-eater. The TOS is a legal document, not a religious text.

It's work the other way as well. We all signed that when we made our accounts and thus we should be held accountable should we break those terms. Yet we act like we shouldn't.

While mods themselves don't make people toxic we tend to overly rely on the more helpful ones. Sometimes it's justified to a degree like numerous hud mods in WoW. Sometimes less so like various combat trackers that still become borderline requirement for high end groups (which often bleeds to lower tiers since they are learning from the example set by the best). Recent race for World First is a good example of it. I believe it's safe to say that all groups that held even remote chance at being the first used ACT including Automated call outs portion of it. Yes I know you have to set them on your own this early into the raid's lifespan but I can't help but see them as an advantage. Ultimately you just allowed 9th party member to take off the duty from someone else who'd otherwise stay be watching and making them. It's never as simple as good or bad.