Japanese FFXIV streamer receives a suspension for using add-ons.

[hagare]

Hah, that already happened multiple times on the forums.

so says the master baiter

[Matdredalia]

Have you literally ever raided Ultimate

Why do you need to know OTHER people's cooldowns? Other than to gripe at them?

Why do you need ACT? If you're putting out enough damage, you're going to know it. If you're not? You're going to know it.

If other people aren't? *They are going to know it.*

And this may shock you, but people clear top end content without mods. It's doable. Shocking, I know. But there's even evidence. Go watch the countless streams that have done it.

So. Again. Why do you need those numbers, in front of you, mid-combat? Other than to bark orders at other people.

[Folsom]

It should not matter whether they are "keeping it secret" or not, some things are worth reporting for. This ain't it, fam.

"No one should have to follow rules I don't like." ; ;

[hagare]

no they were pretty vague on purpose and now it's coming back to bite them

coming back to bite the mod users stupid enough to stream with them

heh. This is like someone complaining on facebook that the cops are stupid because they fined him for speeding, not wearing a helmet and not having his license xD

[CaedemSanguis]

Why do you need to know OTHER people's cooldowns? Other than to gripe at them?

Why do you need ACT? If you're putting out enough damage, you're going to know it. If you're not? You're going to know it.

If other people aren't? *They are going to know it.*

And this may shock you, but people clear top end content without mods. It's doable. Shocking, I know. But there's even evidence. Go watch the countless streams that have done it.

So. Again. Why do you need those numbers, in front of you, mid-combat? Other than to bark orders at other people.

And why banning people for such tools ?

[Folsom]

people generally don't care for bootlicking, so that is probably where it is coming from

And the people who don't like bootlicking will get banned if they stream with their addons. How unfortunate for them.

[kpxmanifesto]

Why do you need to know OTHER people's cooldowns? Other than to gripe at them?

Why do you need ACT? If you're putting out enough damage, you're going to know it. If you're not? You're going to know it.

If other people aren't? *They are going to know it.*

So. Again. Why do you need those numbers, in front of you, mid-combat? Other than to bark orders at other people.

I think tracking other peoples' CDs is for the purpose of coordinating efforts. Like if a tank doesn't have a defensive CD then the healers know to pay extra attention to that tank. DPS meters can show deficiencies in a specific player's DPS and can be an indicator that the player needs to improve in certain areas. I'd say these mods are more about situational awareness and improving one's abilities rather than just "barking orders at other people."

[Folsom]

You're right he wasn't. You'd be hard pressed to find a single person in this game who is, and it all comes down to getting the "Eye of Sauron" treatment.

You have a dismal opinion of other players, probably from browsing forums or reddit and, perhaps, hanging out with your own friend group. The vast, vast majority of the playerbase logs on, plays happily with their friends (or alone), and logs off at the end of the day without doing anything that violates the TOS, even without knowing what is in said TOS. Most players don't know about mods at all. Most players, especially in the age of Discord, don't type swear words "off the cuff" in a moment of ridiculous anger in a video game, whether at random strangers or otherwise, because one actually has to think the word and then choose to type it rather than just saying it.

Heck, even outside of the game, you can see that in, say, a grocery store, where people are rarely just randomly cursing in bouts of anger at strangers who happen to be choosing produce or whatever, and the people who are cursing randomly are recognized by everyone around them as... you know, kinda off, and tend to be avoided. They sometimes even get thrown out of the store.

Anyway, the vast, vast majority of players will never be banned or have their accounts actioned even if a malicious group of people report them; it's far more likely a group targeting an innocent player will all be actioned themselves.

It's time to stop making excuses for people who blatantly, recorded, and in public flout the rules.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

I think tracking other peoples' CDs is for the purpose of coordinating efforts. Like if a tank doesn't have a defensive CD then the healers know to pay extra attention to that tank. DPS meters can show deficiencies in a specific player's DPS and can be an indicator that the player needs to improve in certain areas. I'd say these mods are more about situational awareness and improving one's abilities rather than just "barking orders at other people."

As a healer.. I literally just pay attn to my tanks. I know when they don't have their cds and roughly when I can expect it to be back up in the fight say if we are in savage (he used his 30% for x mech it should be back by y) , this all without communication. Simple voice chat and your tank can simply tell you.

Don't care either way if someone were to use a plug in to track those but honestly I find a lot of the plug ins just erase some simple skill checks the game asks of you. Such as the slide casting overlay that one streamer had in his video that was removed. Knowing WHEN you can slide cast and not f up your gcd is a form of skill expression that the overlay just erases. You don't need a brain you just need eyes staring at your cast bar waiting for it to go in the highlighted bit.
Similar story for cactbot call outs, esp ones when you cannot even see the in game tell yet. It's not like a raid leader at all, it is superior and removes yet more needed brainpower from you, dumbing down the game further. And again in everything but a world first race I don't really care. If it makes more content accessible to more people cool, but don't expect to use all these 3rd party aids to win a world race and still get a pat on the back when you had a dozen things supporting your prog that other teams did not. Being able to remember hidden mechs, see and react to other mechanics is part of the skill and they remove A LOT of that with 3rd party. Like one Zepla showed of a plugin making HIDDEN aoe's visible by adding in aoe markers that are not there normally in game.

PC players making the game significantly easier for themselves than console players and in world race context that is unacceptable to do if u seriously expect to take first place and get your thumbs up from Yoshida.

[Klytania]

Why do you need to know OTHER people's cooldowns? Other than to gripe at them?

Why do you need ACT? If you're putting out enough damage, you're going to know it. If you're not? You're going to know it.

If other people aren't? *They are going to know it.*

And this may shock you, but people clear top end content without mods. It's doable. Shocking, I know. But there's even evidence. Go watch the countless streams that have done it.

So. Again. Why do you need those numbers, in front of you, mid-combat? Other than to bark orders at other people.

"Why does your car have a speedometer? If you're going fast you know it"