Japanese FFXIV streamer receives a suspension for using add-ons.

[Rongway]

Just a reminder for anyone who wants to discuss how add-ons and third party tools can do good things, it may be reportable just to speak positively of such:

05/09/2022 5:00 AM [PDT]
Regarding Third-party Tools

By the same token, it is impossible for us to check what programs are installed on every player’s PC. This is why we cannot identify and reprimand offenders 100% of the time. To offer more clarity on our process, here are a few examples of the rule violations we prioritize for investigation:

• Any actions or public statements that promote use of third-party tools.

[MintnHoney]

Just a reminder for anyone who wants to discuss how add-ons and third party tools can do good things, it may be reportable just to speak positively of such:

05/09/2022 5:00 AM [PDT]
Regarding Third-party Tools

Welp. I guess many of our favorite streamers and tubers are about to get fucked over pretty hard once the brigade comes around and finds those minor quotes of "I don't think this is that bad" and decides that's more than enough.
The beauty of Zoomer culture, I guess. No wonder why touching grass is such a big deal.

[kaynide]

Welp. I guess many of our favorite streamers and tubers are about to get fucked over pretty hard once the brigade comes around and finds those minor quotes of "I don't think this is that bad" and decides that's more than enough.
The beauty of Zoomer culture, I guess. No wonder why touching grass is such a big deal.

The streamer has nobody to blame but themselves. They are lucky not to be perma banned. YoshiP has been nothing but adamant on his stance, so not sure where the surprise or insults are coming from.

What part of “don’t talk about fight club, don’t stream fight club” wasn’t clear?

[MintnHoney]

What part of “don’t talk about fight club, don’t stream fight club” wasn’t clear?

I dunno, probably that part where Yoshi-P didn't want people to "start wars" or brigade about policing others with his statement.
Which, yes, actually, it is petty behavior to be seeking these people out just to report them.

[kaynide]

I dunno, probably that part where Yoshi-P didn't want people to "start wars" or brigade about policing others with his statement.
Which, yes, actually, it is petty behavior to be seeking these people out just to report them.

Don’t know what to tell you other than they played with fire and got burned.

You realize that GMs are the ones to actually investigate and ban people right? If there was no evidence of cheating, then the ban wouldn’t happen. Can’t blame people for doing their jobs any more than you could blame the police for acting on anonymous tips.

[grinkdaboy]

The streamer has nobody to blame but themselves. They are lucky not to be perma banned. YoshiP has been nothing but adamant on his stance, so not sure where the surprise or insults are coming from.

What part of “don’t talk about fight club, don’t stream fight club” wasn’t clear?

people generally don't care for bootlicking, so that is probably where it is coming from

[Folsom]

people generally don't care for bootlicking, so that is probably where it is coming from

And the people who don't like bootlicking will get banned if they stream with their addons. How unfortunate for them.

[Amarande]

The beauty of Zoomer culture, I guess. No wonder why touching grass is such a big deal.

If anything more likely to be folks from my generation (Xennials) ... Zoomers LOVE everything being turned into a number contest and whatever-it-takes-to-win, they tend to actively embrace this kinda thing LOL

Us Xennials on the other hand who got into gaming in the olden days before meters got so ubiquitous it feels like everyone's expected to run one in a MMO - whether or not it's even okay by the TOS (and I'm pretty sure I can only think of three off the top of my head where it is - WoW, along with LotRO which has the same kind of Lua scripting system for UI mods, and Blade & Soul where there's an inbuilt DPS meter last I recall) - and put major efforts into improving one's numbers, I expect a lot of us have chips on our shoulders about the meter culture.

Yeah, I know even as far back as Burning Crusade there were "meter maids," but nowhere near the way things are nowadays (especially since in those days I recall most folks with Recount were mainly using it to boast when they were #1 ... people using it to harangue others for being #5 were rare). Hells, I don't think we even had logs in the guild where I got 12/12N 10/12H in Icecrown Citadel, now if you don't parse and log basically everything you do there's a significant part of the culture that gets sus (either that you're "bad" or that you're only posting your best runs).

It's just obnoxious. Used to be that you played games, you got that victory rush when you won and that was enough. Now it's "omg my/your stats aren't good enough" everywhere ...