When you Love the Story, but are Really Bad at the Gameplay

[GeminiReed]

If you did a mechanic wrong, and you reported the healer because you died from it. How is that the healers fault?

Not only did the healer refuse to do their job they used profanity and talked smack in chat. All three of those points are actionable. The first probably would get off with a warning but the 2nd two by themselves have been known to earn a vacation. Roll all three together and said healer is going to have plenty time to rethink their life choices.

I have a fairly high tolerance for mistakes or inattention but if it seems intentional or they're being a snot then I will be slamming that report button as soon as we get out of the instance.

If you insist on perfection then roll with a static.

[kaynide]

If you did a mechanic wrong, and you reported the healer because you died from it. How is that the healers fault?

Gotta reread there buddy.

OP said pretty clearly the goofed up. The problem is rather than raise and move on, the healer pointed, laughed and mocked OP. All of that is and should be reported.

[IdowhatIwant]

Not only did the healer refuse to do their job they used profanity and talked smack in chat. All three of those points are actionable. The first probably would get off with a warning but the 2nd two by themselves have been known to earn a vacation. Roll all three together and said healer is going to have plenty time to rethink their life choices.

I have a fairly high tolerance for mistakes or inattention but if it seems intentional or they're being a snot then I will be slamming that report button as soon as we get out of the instance.

If you insist on perfection then roll with a static.

Profanity! In a game in which profanity is used by the NPC characters!? Some one stop this madness.

Gotta reread there buddy.

OP said pretty clearly the goofed up. The problem is rather than raise and move on, the healer pointed, laughed and mocked OP. All of that is and should be reported.

I read it, and saw nothing that should have been reported to waste a GMs time on. They died on the last fight, release leave the dungeon move on. People are too sensitive.

[KageTokage]

Insulting people for making mistakes is not justified in any circumstance.

Unfortunately basic human decency isn't something that occurs readily to all.

[IdowhatIwant]

Insulting people for making mistakes is not justified in any circumstance.

They didn't insult them, they laughed at there mistake. Them saying "You shouldn't have been standing in sh--" could be considered feed back to the player. Most common mechanics in this game is don't stand in the glowy area on the ground. Not all feedback is going to care about your feelings. Feedback can be nasty, rude, but if it is constructive in some way it is feed back. They shouldn't have goofed, and the healer is by no means required by ToS to resurrect the player at the end of the dungeon.

[KageTokage]

You can still get a point across without mocking or belittling them.

I will just bluntly state how a mechanic functions if someone is repeatedly messing it up.

[TaleraRistain]

They didn't insult them, they laughed at there mistake. Them saying "You shouldn't have been standing in sh--" could be considered feed back to the player. Most common mechanics in this game is don't stand in the glowy area on the ground. Not all feedback is going to care about your feelings. Feedback can be nasty, rude, but if it is constructive in some way it is feed back. They shouldn't have goofed, and the healer is by no means required by ToS to resurrect the player at the end of the dungeon.

Are you Plastic Man? Because wow that is a stretch.

https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...la=1&kid=68216

Couple points this directly violates

Under Nuisance Behavior

Using insulting words such as "stupid," "idiot," "die," "crazy," "garbage," or "trash" to offend others. In addition, even if you do not use direct words, blaming and attacking others, such as "It's [player name]'s fault that we wiped" or "You really make a lot of mistakes," or rephrasing insulting words into any other form is also prohibited. If a report has been filed and the prohibited activity is confirmed, a penalty will be issued.

Using accusatory expressions or sarcastic remarks without offering any constructive advice. Statements such as "people like you will never get better" are prohibited. If a report has been filed and the prohibited activity is confirmed, a penalty will be issued.

Mocking or ridiculing another player who has been knocked out by using emotes (such as laugh), jumping, or using items (such as fireworks) on top of their character's body. If a report has been filed and the prohibited activity is confirmed, a penalty will be issued.

[kaynide]

Profanity! In a game in which profanity is used by the NPC characters!? Some one stop this madness.



I read it, and saw nothing that should have been reported to waste a GMs time on. They died on the last fight, release leave the dungeon move on. People are too sensitive.

It doesn't matter if people are too sensitive; it's breaking rules and if the player in question isn't happy about it they have a right to report it.

See Talera's Link, some more details:

◆Offensive expression

・Expressions that provoke or belittle another person, such as excessive criticism, negation/ridicule
Mocking another person for making mistakes. Statements such as "how can you screw up on something so simple that no one else messes up?" are prohibited. If a report has been filed and the prohibited activity is confirmed, a penalty will be issued.

・Expressions that compel a playing style
Expressing your wishes in the form of a request, as in the following example, does not constitute a violation. <- OP's request for healing.

"I'm getting attacked by the enemies, can you put on your stance?"
"It would be great if you could focus on healing because I'm in trouble!"

・Expressions that attempt to unilaterally exclude someone from the game or content/community, etc.
"If you can't do the mechanic well, maybe you shouldn't bother joining the party."

[IdowhatIwant]

Are you Plastic Man? Because wow that is a stretch.

https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...la=1&kid=68216

Couple points this directly violates

Under Nuisance Behavior

Using insulting words such as "stupid," "idiot," "die," "crazy," "garbage," or "trash" to offend others. In addition, even if you do not use direct words, blaming and attacking others, such as "It's [player name]'s fault that we wiped" or "You really make a lot of mistakes," or rephrasing insulting words into any other form is also prohibited. If a report has been filed and the prohibited activity is confirmed, a penalty will be issued.

Using accusatory expressions or sarcastic remarks without offering any constructive advice. Statements such as "people like you will never get better" are prohibited. If a report has been filed and the prohibited activity is confirmed, a penalty will be issued.

Mocking or ridiculing another player who has been knocked out by using emotes (such as laugh), jumping, or using items (such as fireworks) on top of their character's body. If a report has been filed and the prohibited activity is confirmed, a penalty will be issued.

Didn't use any insult.
Didn't accuse anything, they clearly stood in something and died.
The last one they did do.
These new ToS changes are so terrible, and defends overly sensitive players such as all of you that push for this player to be reported for something so petty. This is exactly why I do not interact with players at all in this game and many others do the same, because there are people like you all that will constantly push to get people banned for the most minute things. I absolutely hate the player base of this game cause they are far worst than any troll player could ever be. I want you to know, you are all a shining example of why this games community is terrible.

[TaleraRistain]

Didn't use any insult.
Didn't accuse anything, they clearly stood in something and died.
The last one they did do.
These new ToS changes are so terrible, and defends overly sensitive players such as all of you that push for this player to be reported for something so petty. This is exactly why I do not interact with players at all in this game and many others do the same, because there are people like you all that will constantly push to get people banned for the most minute things. I absolutely hate the player base of this game cause they are far worst than any troll player could ever be. I want you to know, you are all a shining example of why this games community is terrible.

They blamed the OP for dying. That's outlined in the first statement.

And, yes, we're so horrible by expecting basic civility and respect and treating people like people. This is really all that SE is asking for right there at the beginning:

"The following list defines some of the activities that are prohibited in, or in connection with, Final Fantasy XIV. This list provides general guidelines and is not exhaustive. When in doubt, Square Enix urges its players to err on the side of caution and to treat other players with civility and respect. Square Enix reserves the right, in its sole discretion, to (i) determine which activities are prohibited or violate Square Enix’s policies or terms of use, (ii) enforce such policies and terms of use, and (iii) revise this list."

But people find it SO HARD to do something as simple as not be a jerk.