Are Epic games out to KILL Steam? (SIPFFO) related)

[TaleraRistain]

Stranger of Paradise is an amazing game. The canonicity of which can be taken or left as per the SoP Devs themselves, but for a possible lead-in story for FF1 it was pretty high concept and it stuck the landing for me. Even though I played this on PS5, DEFINITELY wait for a sale if you are getting this for PC as the performance is pretty rough, and on consoles its not great either, I'm hopeful it will receive performance patches closer to the DLC they have planned.

I'm hyped for the XIV graphic engine overhaul so we can get a Jack Garland collab and can't wait until he hits opera omnia.

Yeah I loved it. The different jobs made combat fun and I loved the story. I played FF1 right before it just so I would be fresh on everything and I was impressed about how it doesn't contradict anything in that lore. So it's not even that it must be an AU. It could very well fit right into established canon.

Seeing Jack in XIV would be pretty hilarious, too.

[Maxilor]

Yeah I loved it. The different jobs made combat fun and I loved the story. I played FF1 right before it just so I would be fresh on everything and I was impressed about how it doesn't contradict anything in that lore. So it's not even that it must be an AU. It could very well fit right into established canon.

Seeing Jack in XIV would be pretty hilarious, too.

*walks away and plays Limp Bizkit on IPhone*

[TaleraRistain]

*walks away and plays Limp Bizkit on IPhone*

That and Lich had me rolling

[hagare]

Yeah I loved it. The different jobs made combat fun and I loved the story. I played FF1 right before it just so I would be fresh on everything and I was impressed about how it doesn't contradict anything in that lore. So it's not even that it must be an AU. It could very well fit right into established canon.

Seeing Jack in XIV would be pretty hilarious, too.

Waiting for a sale. Just like any pther game I have on my wish list. Lmao

[TaleraRistain]

Waiting for a sale. Just like any pther game I have on my wish list. Lmao

I highly recommend it. On the harder difficulties that I haven't poked at much but did play with some, it's got some challenging gameplay. But you can also just do baby story mode to experience the story. It doesn't really take itself too seriously so there are a lot of laugh out loud moments and some very cringey yet hysterical dialogue, but it manages to nail the landing.

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

I like Steam more then EGS. The library is bigger and finding games are so much easier. I took a look at EGS and good god is there list all over the place. I feel like whoever designed the store was someone in kindergarten =.

[Amarande]

The gut feeling I get is that in the long run, Epic will trend towards being the favored platform for new AAA games, especially solo oriented ones, while Steam will remain the favored platform for everything else (e.g., indies, remasters, PC ports of former console titles, online games that make most of their money through post-release MTX).

Steam has the advantage of exposure plus a far more player friendly interface, but suffers from the fact that it's presumably getting harder to make money straight up off of Steam. Between the general expectation that a game will be buggy at launch, and that almost everything of note that isn't already very low priced will go on sale on a fairly predictable, repeated basis, it's hard, maybe even impossible for a traditional one and done AAA game published there to get a good traction of $70 buy ins.

After all, why (generally speaking) should I even buy a game right when it comes out? It's not like it'll sell out like a physical store. It's probably going to need a patch to be reliably playable that I might as well wait for. It's probably also going to be deep discounted sometime later in the year, too. If it's not deeply discounted enough, I may as well (especially when buys tend to go straight to the backlog anyway) buy one or more of the other many games I've got sitting on my wishlist instead (example: Tales of Arise, which probably as long as even the sale price is over $40 is going to languish on the wish list). Even if sales were not a thing, Steam is a very indie friendly platform and a lot of indie games are worth their small price tags (even if it's a $15-20 game with a few hours of content, that still compares favorably to for instance a MMO, where on average you're receiving that much or even less new content in a given month for your sub). There's also remasters which tend to be budget friendly and, naturally, provide just as much gameplay time as the originals would have (well, mostly, since for the really old platforms a lot of that gameplay time was really because of the ultra slow load/CPU speeds of the day).

Most of the tactics that devs can use to counterbalance this loss of initial-buy profits are generally regarded as, to avoid using the T word, rather negatively influencing on the play experience (either explicit FOMO, design that causes player-created FOMO, or laying post-purchase MTX on thicker and thicker).

At least with Epic, they're getting a bigger cut and far as I'm aware there's less competition from indies than on Steam, so they're probably going to be able to sell more copies at MSRP vs the store user base than Steam.

Wouldn't be surprised if that's a big reason Switch exclusives are becoming such a thing too, with even ventures into the PC space from franchises like Shin Megami Tensei and Persona starting to feel like hope spots now (I was hoping to see more of those titles hit Steam but instead it seems they're right back to releasing only on the Switch ...).

[GrizzlyTank]

Not particularly fond of how Epic entered the market so steering away from their store, which unfortunately for square means that i will be spoiling myself on their games through streamers than buying them myself.

Kudos to the engineering team the Unreal Engine though.

[Darthgummibear]

Epic managed to scare off a large portion of their potential customers with their crappy practices. Pretty sure they barely register on steam's radar.

[Strongfat900]

Obviously not since there is no actual competition with Steam. Epic is very sleazy when they try to force people into their platform by buying time exclusives of games that people wish to play on Steam. All in all, I really don't see much point of the thread since it doesn't relate to FFXIV at all.