Can PVP ever be good in this game?

[Ransu]

Everyone its own. Mass pvp is simply different from arena pvp.

No one legitimately enjoys frontlines and if they say they do they are straight up lying. Its pure aoe zerg with zero skill involved. People only queue for it because its a roulette that gives a ton of exp. Without that no one would play frontlines.

[Iyrnwaen]

No one legitimately enjoys frontlines and if they say they do they are straight up lying. Its pure aoe zerg with zero skill involved. People only queue for it because its a roulette that gives a ton of exp. Without that no one would play frontlines.

Facts. It's just like pre-patch MSQ roulette. No one was running Prae because it was fun. They did it because the devs openly bribed us to queue.

[LowIQ]

No one legitimately enjoys frontlines and if they say they do they are straight up lying. Its pure aoe zerg with zero skill involved. People only queue for it because its a roulette that gives a ton of exp. Without that no one would play frontlines.

Hilarious.
10/10, got me to reply.

[Ransu]

Hilarious.
10/10, got me to reply.

You can say that all you want, but frontlines was dead before they added exp to the mode. No one actually likes the mode.

[LowIQ]

You can say that all you want, but frontlines was dead before they added exp to the mode. No one actually likes the mode.

Oh no he's serious.

It's okay, it's fine. You are one of those "I'm here for the xp xD" people. It's okay, I don't hate you.

[Ransu]

Oh no he's serious.

It's okay, it's fine. You are one of those "I'm here for the xp xD" people. It's okay, I don't hate you.

You clearly didn't play before ShB. 72 player matches were rare, and if you did get a match it was after an hour in queue.

[LowIQ]

72 player matches were rare, and if you did get a match it was after an hour in queue.

True true. Why not just go ahead and say that people simply hate all form of pvp and only do it for rewards.

I assure though, there's a lot of people who love pvp in xiv.

[Stasya]

True true. Why not just go ahead and say that people simply hate all form of pvp and only do it for rewards.

I assure though, there's a lot of people who love pvp in xiv.

But not you, you are just a troll

[Mistress_Irika]

No one legitimately enjoys frontlines and if they say they do they are straight up lying. Its pure aoe zerg with zero skill involved. People only queue for it because its a roulette that gives a ton of exp. Without that no one would play frontlines.

I've grinded frontlines for 2 straight expansions. While I didn't like the changes during Shadowbringers I still grinded frontlines. I don't see why it has to be bashed on besides the increase RNG that we've been getting.
I can't make any judgements on how it is now, because I decided not to go in after looking at the potencies. It's just too easy to kill. I don't feel like playing with latency on the Guard ability, especially since there's certain classes that can do piercing damage.

[Zer0]

I've grinded frontlines for 2 straight expansions. While I didn't like the changes during Shadowbringers I still grinded frontlines. I don't see why it has to be bashed on besides the increase RNG that we've been getting.
I can't make any judgements on how it is now, because I decided not to go in after looking at the potencies. It's just too easy to kill. I don't feel like playing with latency on the Guard ability, especially since there's certain classes that can do piercing damage.

Put it this way, it's impossible to create a worse PvP system than frontlines even if you set out to attempt to make the single worst mmo pvp systems ever made. You'd still end up with an improvement over this.

Right now the entire development team on PvP needs to be fired.