In a game with E8S why is SE banning people with suggestive Adventurer Plates?

[TheGrimace]

lol imagine getting offended by a suggestive image in Final Fantasy XIV lmao

[Cheremia]

Nudity is not sexual

But i do find it funny how people are so perverted, that nudity=sexual no matter what it is.

Yeah you angels surely don't do suggestive poses with 2B tights and other panties and shove your butt/Crotch into the camera.
Or do suggestive poses that are very clear to anybody with eyes.

lol imagine getting offended by a suggestive image in Final Fantasy XIV lmao

I don't think most people are offended by it, some just don't want to see it and its completely fair for them to not want to see "pretend sexual acts".

In some parts of the world, nudity is seen as purity. Not as sexual by nature.

[Vryn]

Nudity is not sexual

But i do find it funny how people are so perverted, that nudity=sexual no matter what it is.

Yeah you angels surely don't do suggestive poses with 2B tights and other panties and shove your butt/Crotch into the camera.
Or do suggestive poses that are very clear to anybody with eyes.



I don't think most people are offended by it, some just don't want to see it and its completely fair for them to not want to see "pretend sexual acts".

In some parts of the world, nudity is seen as purity. Not as sexual by nature.

Nudity is inherently sexual. The differences are those cultures don't see sex as being a dirty act but as the creation of something new.

I don't know how many people are offended by it but I can imagine a fair few don't want to see the plate but then again you see the glamour before you see the plate.

However, the development team has gotten themselves into this mess and has created a dynamic where they now have to put more of a gun to players' heads and threaten them not to use systems the way they want. The minute you start enforcing things in a speculative mannor is the minute trust degrades and I don't know anyone who trusts people who do anything by decree.

[Cheremia]

Nudity is inherently sexual. The differences are those cultures don't see sex as being a dirty act but as the creation of something new.

I don't know how many people are offended by it but I can imagine a fair few don't want to see the plate but then again you see the glamour before you see the plate.

However, the development team has gotten themselves into this mess and has created a dynamic where they now have to put more of a gun to players' heads and threaten them not to use systems the way they want. The minute you start enforcing things is the minute trust degrades and I don't know anyone who trusts people who do anything by decree.

That is also true. But not always, it really depends on the context of nudity tbh.
I watched Sailor Moon as a kid and Usagi was literally naked for the last fight to symbolize purity (and she also created something new in a way so... hmm). And i can tell you that it was absolutely not meant to be sexual.
But i'm not even here to argue honestly.

But for the adventure plates themself, the glamour you put on it doesnt reflect what you wear. My adventure plate has my fave clown outfit while i wear something else right now.
That's only for pvp the case. Where it breaks if you change your glam lmao

I'm just saying that there's a big difference about Rynes outfit and the stuff portrayed in some plates. Because that's just how it is at the end of the day.
It's a bit silly to compare the two if the context is pretty different and what's being suggested by the plates is definitely NOT the same as what Ryne is supposed to symbolize i guess.

That's all i wanted to get out because "awoogaing" at anything that shows any amount of skin is sort of a you problem.... nothing wrong with being a pervert tho lol
But context and intention DOES indeed also matter.

At least that's my stance on it.

[Vryn]

That is also true. But not always, it really depends on the context of nudity tbh.
I watched Sailor Moon as a kid and Usagi was literally naked for the last fight to symbolize purity (and she also created something new in a way so... hmm). And i can tell you that it was absolutely not meant to be sexual.
But i'm not even here to argue honestly.

But for the adventure plates themself, the glamour you put on it doesnt reflect what you wear. My adventure plate has my fave clown outfit while i wear something else right now.
That's only for pvp the case. Where it breaks if you change your glam lmao

I'm just saying that there's a big difference about Rynes outfit and the stuff portrayed in some plates. Because that's just how it is at the end of the day.
It's a bit silly to compare the two if the context is pretty different and what's being suggested by the plates is definitely NOT the same as what Ryne is supposed to symbolize i guess.

That's all i wanted to get out because "awoogaing" at anything that shows any amount of skin is sort of a you problem.... nothing wrong with being a pervert tho lol
But context and intention DOES indeed also matter.

At least that's my stance on it.

Well, life is inherently sexual, but there is a scale to how you show that and what could be considered socially acceptable. Just because it's a pure act doesn't mean people necessarily want to see it as even the purest act can be revolting to a degree, such as the transformation from a caterpillar into a Butterfly and a magnificent display, but rather gross. Usually, when something transforms, it's sacrificing itself for something new, it's being reborn, and the old version dies. You can see this with Shadowbringer's transformation from human to sineater.

The system isn't that good, it's not that streamlined, and it is highly exploitable. It makes me wonder if they released too much content and it wasn't appropriately playtested because there have been many issues with systems in 6.1.

Also, I would add that the game has shown more sex and sexual imagery than most. They have added a stripper pole, casting couches, and studio lamps. They have allowed in-game brothels and put on sexually suggestive clothes. They have a market that breaks their own ToS, and they have been pandering to them for a long time, so it's no wonder they have these issues. It's their fault. If they didn't want people to break the ToS in such a manner, do not design the systems to do it. The company has a responsibility not to give players the tools to incriminate themselves and if they have then they need to accept it or change it.

Quite correct, there isn't anything wrong with being a pervert; these people will be. They just don't want to see you doing it.

[Gemina]

and so is still the question: why allow SE the camera to go in such angles? they could easy limit it for the plates, why wasnt they doing it? Everyone knows, if something is possible someone gonna try out, so why not avoid such behavior by technical limitations on first place?

It's called a privilege. These are granted in good faith that they won't be abused; when they are, those privileges are taken away. I shouldn't have to spell this out. Parents are supposed to teach this to their children, so the fact that this even comes into question as far as what is and isn't appropriate just lets you know the maturity level of those who do so. You are trying to defend sexualization of something that doesn't even belong to you (your avatar and everything about it is the property of SE).

Nudity is inherently sexual. The differences are those cultures don't see sex as being a dirty act but as the creation of something new.

No, it's not. Nudity is sexualized, and the very same cultures that do so also shame it. Nudity by itself is just that, nudity. A nude human being is simply in their natural state. This is true no matter what culture anyone may refer to.