What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[IkaraGreydancer]

I think even Ishikawa states he was 100% in the wrong and pretty evil. Venat did kill people, that isn’t really anything up for debate. She brought illness into the world, dying to young age etc. She created the shards knowing they would be killed. The fact the game itself tries to paint her as just and benevolent and even lets her take credit for shielding the planet is baffling when we know it’s only because of Elidibus and Zodiark that the planet was shielded and kept safe, and neither of them get much credit.

I was speaking in the sundering itself. The AFTERMATH yes she did in turn indirectly kill people. Thing is she never said otherwise, in fact she even admitted as such. But she did explain why she did this. To some the reason is justified, to others it isn't. My interpretation was that the final world in the Dead Ends is what would've happened to the Ancients at some point. Once you reach perfection there's nothing else left

And bias aside the game doesn't state she kept things protected far as I remember. That was attributed to Zodiark many times. I'd only agree that Elidibus didn't get the recognition he deserved. But I can wave that considering the raid arc is about him. To me that's enough.

You may not agree with what she did nor do I fully. I CANT however say she didn't care for her people sundered or unsundered. Her being painted a just is how she is to the other Scions and by extention the World. You the player/WoL can formulate you own opinion as we have here. To me it's brilliant

[KizuyaKatogami]

I was speaking in the sundering itself. The AFTERMATH yes she did in turn indirectly kill people. Thing is she never said otherwise, in fact she even admitted as such. But she did explain why she did this. To some the reason is justified, to others it isn't. My interpretation was that the final world in the Dead Ends is what would've happened to the Ancients at some point. Once you reach perfection there's nothing else left

And bias aside the game doesn't state she kept things protected far as I remember. That was attributed to Zodiark many times. I'd only agree that Elidibus didn't get the recognition he deserved. But I can wave that considering the raid arc is about him. To me that's enough.

You may not agree with what she did nor do I fully. I CANT however say she didn't care for her people sundered or unsundered. Her being painted a just is how she is to the other Scions and by extention the World. You the player/WoL can formulate you own opinion as we have here. To me it's brilliant

The sundering itself did kill people though.Also are we just going to forget about all the people she let die by not telling them the truth about meteion and that the final days was coming? It literally killed an entire race of people, which is ironic because Alphinaud makes a quote based on this very thing. Alphinaud once said in Shadowbringers that living in a Rejoined world would be against his beliefs, saying, "But what value is there in surviving when all our history, all our struggles will be erased? I cannot conscience such an act." Yet this is exactly what Venat did,which goes against his and the scions beliefs and somehow all the scions are fine with it and dont call her out on it. The codex entry i believe implies she was the one keeping it protected, and even labels Zodiark, the one who protected the planet and a being her entire plan hinged upon, an "ill-fated wish."