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    I seem to misunderstand how dora is indicated here. Thanks for the explanation. I'll remove 4th point from the list.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naizakane View Post
    And you would want to set yourself up for a potential houtei because...?
    Because that's how should it work normally. Player still should be able to make a call for the last tile even if it's not a ron. It seems to be a bug that ends the game immediately not allowing player to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raionek View Post
    Because that's how should it work normally. Player still should be able to make a call for the last tile even if it's not a ron. It seems to be a bug that ends the game immediately not allowing player to do that.
    I have played riichi mahjong on four clients including FFXIV. Not a single one of them lets players call the last tile for anything that isn't ron. Tile calls on the last tile are limited to ron only. From riichi.wiki: "Finally, the last discard cannot be claimed for any open calls, even if needed to attain tenpai. The call on the last discard is limited for winning hands, by which houtei raoyui is rewarded."

    Given this, the hand ending once the last tile is discarded, even if it's a tile you could call via pon/chi to attain tenpai, is not a bug, but intentional. Again, why would you want to set yourself up to be hit with houtei?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naizakane View Post
    I have played riichi mahjong on four clients including FFXIV. Not a single one of them lets players call the last tile for anything that isn't ron. Tile calls on the last tile are limited to ron only. From riichi.wiki: "Finally, the last discard cannot be claimed for any open calls, even if needed to attain tenpai. The call on the last discard is limited for winning hands, by which houtei raoyui is rewarded."

    Given this, the hand ending once the last tile is discarded, even if it's a tile you could call via pon/chi to attain tenpai, is not a bug, but intentional. Again, why would you want to set yourself up to be hit with houtei?
    Players without tenpai have to pay out points to players with tenpai when the game ends in a draw, that's why. Houtei is a risk but that's their own decision to make. I'm not saying it should be changed if that goes against every other ruleset; but it's not hard to see the motivation behind wanting to do so
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    Quote Originally Posted by GwynUnlucky View Post
    Players without tenpai have to pay out points to players with tenpai when the game ends in a draw, that's why. Houtei is a risk but that's their own decision to make. I'm not saying it should be changed if that goes against every other ruleset; but it's not hard to see the motivation behind wanting to do so
    Dealing in via houtei usually costs more points than noten payout and carries the risk of giving the opponent's hand a considerable upgrade, for example a hand worth 5 han before houtei being upgraded to haneman by houtei, making you pay between 12-18k. Compare that to noten payouts being either 1k, 1.5k or 3k, and it removes any motivation to call pon/chi on the last tile. I'd definitely take noten over a houtei deal-in.
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