Play poll: No Open world vs Instanced world?

[Coglin]

You are linking a poll in which 90% of the polsters do not have active accounts. We are not debating what people over a year ago, who were playing for free thought. We are interested in what paying customers now desire.Not to mention the only question about instanced/non instanced content referes to the targeting system in reference to raids. Not instances or non instanced material itself. A little reading comprehension can go a log way. Try it.

[NadienKirisame]

Talk out of your backside much? You my friend are a bold face liar. you blurt out made up numbers. That is a fact

Actually Wolfie is taking those from the players poll question about the claiming system and how people would rather have instanced content more then open world. So its not really a lie and such... is it exact well maybe not since it was based on if the claim system was such and such way. Which I will sort of agree with the way the claiming system is all most open world will turn into is zerg-fest and with most NMs not taking very long to respawn well yeah it doesn't really matter each group can get a turn to get what they want and it will go fast will tons of people smashing the NMs into the ground.

So they would really need to change the claim system and also make it so outside parties can not attack a claimed mob or else as I stated it will just become zerg-fest...

Also I don't agree with the whole this should have better gear then that... the gear should be based on how hard it is and if the open world can just be zerged into the ground well then why put good gear in there? that just seems worng and the easy way. This is also one of the reason why the best gear is normally in instances because a set number of people can go in and the difficulty is set for that many people... the group in the instance can not call in more people to zerg the instance... they must do it with the people they have...

Anyway... I'm not really for any side and most of the time both sides come off as rather foolish in wants and wishes... I know why don't you humans take all that energy you have for conflict and work on ideas for both sides to work good and make both sides happy... can you even try to do that?

The cat is bemused =-.-=

[Wolfie]

You are linking a poll in which 90% of the polsters do not have active accounts.

They did when the polls were made. Their opinions are representative of the entire population of people who played, play, and have an interest in FFXIV. The devs aren't designing and developing the game for the ~10k users that are paying right now.

We are not debating what people over a year ago, who were playing for free thought. We are interested in what paying customers now desire.Not to mention the only question about instanced/non instanced content referes to the targeting system in reference to raids. Not instances or non instanced material itself. A little reading comprehension can go a log way. Try it.

No it doesn't. You up YOUR reading comprehension, it's talking about the claiming system.

[NadienKirisame]

You are linking a poll in which 90% of the polsters do not have active accounts. We are not debating what people over a year ago, who were playing for free thought. We are interested in what paying customers now desire.Not to mention the only question about instanced/non instanced content referes to the targeting system in reference to raids. Not instances or non instanced material itself. A little reading comprehension can go a log way. Try it.

Well lets take a look at the question and break it down shall we?

10. If the current target claiming system were done away with, would you prefer for content such as dungeons and battle to be converted into instances as much as possible?
* "Instances" refer to those events and areas that can only be occupied by a single party, or certain characters, at once. This serves to prevent players from competing with one another for the same enemies, for example.

Notice it does not mention raids at all for starters... and what it is asking is if they did away with the current claiming system they had at the time if everyone would want instances or open world content more. People decided that instanced content would be more preferred probably do to the claiming system and if it was changed or not...

We can read more into it if you wish but I think it is very clear don't know?

The cat is bemused =-.-=

[NadienKirisame]

Ahem...



I'll just leave this here.

Though that is probably wholeheartedly justifiable I'm not sure that was needed.... erm... please lets try to keep this from turning into a bigger fight then it is ^^;

The cat is bemused =-.-=

[Sephrick]

Though that is probably wholeheartedly justifiable I'm not sure that was needed.... erm... please lets try to keep this from turning into a bigger fight then it is ^^;

The cat is bemused =-.-=

You're correct. I apologize.

[Coglin]

Well lets take a look at the question and break it down shall we?

It is a conditional question. This thread is not about a conditional open world or instanced situation. This thread is also about what paying players want, not what past freerolling players who no longer play wanted.

[Wolfie]

Coglin, read through these:

http://www.cracked.com/article_19468...you-think.html
http://youarenotsosmart.com/2011/06/...ckfire-effect/

You are making up things and being a nitpick in the face of cold, hard numbers. There is no argument here, what I'm saying about instanced content being preferred over open world is a cold hard fact.

[NadienKirisame]

It is a conditional question. This thread is not about a conditional open world or instanced situation. This thread is also about what paying players want, not what past freerolling players who no longer play wanted.

Actually this thread is very much about open world or instanced the title of the thread itself infers such a thing...

Play poll: No Open world vs Instanced world?

Is the title so it could be said this thread is all about open world vs instanced... though really its more like he was asking why there was no question on the new poll about open world or instanced world. In a way the thread title can be taken in a few different ways... and of course there is the OP and the following posts by people the make the flow of what this thread is about... which has come to be open world vs instanced...

Also the question in the poll what asked to all the current players at that time... you were no paying at the time as well... did you make your opinion known at the time of that poll? It doesn't matter if half those people that took that poll are no longer there what it shows is what all the players at that time wanted.

Should they have asked that question or another question pertaining to open world vs instanced in this recent poll? yes they probably should have but they did not. Also I am sure SE want to get those players back that left during the time that poll was done... don't you think?

The cat is bemused =-.-=

[Coglin]

You are making up things and being a nitpick in the face of cold, hard numbers. There is no argument here, what I'm saying about instanced content being preferred over open world is a cold hard fact.

Tell yourself whatever you have to to convince yourself its a fact, that is fine my friend. A fact would be a pole that ask the diect question in debate here and not a conditional one and would include those playing. As you ademently stated the player base. Not the potential player base. Not the past player base.