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  1. #11
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    Vencio Luirex
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    No reason at all to be restricted,

    No logic needed,

    Period,

    Now please unrestrict this for variety & complexity’s sake!
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  2. #12
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    come one don't use this cheap excuses. i know you do nor mean it in a bad way. thing is its really easy to port the hair from one had to another. look up what moderns do for this game. mind yo the moderns do not have the tools the devs do.
    It's not a cheap excuse rofl the devs can't perform magic and I imagine it's pretty low on the priority list.

    Also I am guessing that you mean modders, modding is totally different than implementing something server side into the game officially.
    Just because modders can do something easily doesn't mean that the actual devs can that's not how it works.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vencio View Post
    No reason at all to be restricted,

    No logic needed,

    Period,

    Now please unrestrict this for variety & complexity’s sake!
    You can't say that without having a behind the scenes view, game dev isn't as simple as you might think that it is.
    It's not about just checking a box or resizing things.
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  3. #13
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    Yuki Yagami
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    when we as the one that make it so THE DEVS EBEN HAVE A JOB AND GEY PAYED
    Are you a programmer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Hrothgar so done with being second class that they summon their own primal to give them hair.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Matsya is an elephant. I cant blame them for not casting the voice to a talking elephant.

  4. #14
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    Denji's Avatar
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    Daddy Milkers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunnycake View Post
    Are you a programmer?
    this would be a 3D modeler's job.
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  5. #15
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunnycake View Post
    Are you a programmer?
    It doesn't involve just programming, and this is literally the least of the programmer's worries. The system is already there anyway, it doesn't take the programmer any more effort to add new objects. The 3D modelling team is the one you guys want to talk to.

    Source: I myself am not a programmer, though I AM trying to get into a game dev course after finishing my Master's in a different area. I DO have acquaintances in the course I want to enroll in which have already voiced their opinions of such views in private, one of them being very specifically what's doable or not doable by either one department. Especially the programming\3D departments.

    It doesn't mean they're not paid to do this either. Which they are. It's just a whole 'nother issue. They are also subject to the company's orders, so they can't up and do stuff on their own (except for that one time the dev team ALLEGEDLY worked behind Yoshida's back to give Viera and Hrothgar minor headgear items). They're also subject to company policies. But while it's not up to them, it IS up to Square Enix to make this decision, so it's less a critique toward their programmers and more the orders they should be getting.

    Meanwhile for the people who want stuff like Au Ra hair and all that... you guys do know some shared hairstyles had to be adjusted from Miqo'te to, say, Roegadyn on account of human\non-human ears, yes? You guys want the tweaking or are you okay with clipping? And on that note, how do you feel about Hrothgar asking for the exact same thing, being okay with either one, yet being told a flat "no"? You think it's going to go any different for you all? Because if it does, first of all congratulations to all of you, and secondly it proves a massive double-standard.
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    Last edited by Midareyukki; 05-05-2022 at 04:43 AM.

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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    come one don't use this cheap excuses. i know you do nor mean it in a bad way. thing is its really easy to port the hair from one had to another. look up what moderns do for this game. mind yo the moderns do not have the tools the devs do.
    I'm not talking about fitting hair to heads, I'm talking about making them available in the menu. If the race-specific hairstyles are taking up slots 1-12 and the universal styles start at #13, it's not just a matter of unlocking the styles but, at the very least, creating new numbers for them at the end of the list.

    (I would not be surprised if there is actually an upper limit somewhere to the amount of hairstyles they can add over the life of the game – otherwise I feel like they might be a bit more generous with multiple versions of things so they can get more mileage out of a single model. Like, instead of just the Wind Caller model they could have released three with different headbands and people would have spent three times as many coins collecting all the options. But instead they only add one.)

    That said, races do seem to have different numbers of specific styles, so maybe there's a bit of leeway for opening some up.
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  7. #17
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    Cordelia Emery
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    while we're at it, can we not have clan restricted skintones? I know there's lore reasons, but there's already some NPCs running around with skintones not available in creation for their clan. I would love to have a Seawolf but with Hellsguard's reddish skin tones.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazama999 View Post
    I believe the real answer is that having restrictions just makes things more simple to work with. When you have to adapt something to each race, that's more work you gotta put in to make it look good (although those Hrothgar hairstyles...).

    Some might argue that it gives races "uniqueness", and it does to the extent of "X race is unable to use Y race's hairstyle."

    This seems kind of silly to me, however, for I've yet to find a reason why a certain race might not be able to style their hair in a certain way while another one could.
    there is not reason other that its what yoshi wants. the reason we cant glam what ever gear we want (jod restricted) is because yoshi think this way people can more easy know what job you are. do this sound logical in FF14? no it do not. so the hair is most likely the same reason. having restrictions just makes things more simple to work with is just not the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    It's not a cheap excuse rofl the devs can't perform magic and I imagine it's pretty low on the priority list.

    Also I am guessing that you mean modders, modding is totally different than implementing something server side into the game officially.
    Just because modders can do something easily doesn't mean that the actual devs can that's not how it works.
    its not magic its WORK. they just lazy out of it. thing is you need maybe 2 people to work on it and by the next patch its all be done. you make it WAY more hard that it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bunnycake View Post
    Are you a programmer?
    in a way yes. works in the filed of electro optical communications
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    Last edited by SamsaraTrickstar; 05-05-2022 at 04:50 AM.

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    Reminds me of Warcraft 3 peons
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