There's too much strawmanning people who criticize the game

[RyuDragnier]

It must be nice to be such a gigachad and have completed every single little thing this game offers.

I know right? The guy must have already cleared DSR within the week...

[Jason_Ashford]

Why would you even come into these threads though? If you can't handle criticisms just don't enter these threads? Coming into threads that criticize the game to defend Square Enix is just weird, when it literally doesn't affect you in any meaningful way unless you make this game part of your identity.

Pot, meet kettle. It is almost comical, the sheer amount of irony and hypocrisy in this statement. I have never once given you crap for being critical of the game, i have stated again and again the reason why the developers are not adding more time-gated and grindy content. The problem is that you don't seem to want to engage with anyone who disagrees with your point of view and have outright dismissed several valid arguments against your threads because they weren't what you wanted to hear, and then make another thread about how we are "Straw-manning" you.

I'm almost convinced you're just a troll at this point because you haven't offered any actual constructive criticism, all you've done is nonsensically complain about the 'lack of content' and call anything that disagrees a strawman argument.

[Jason_Ashford]

Why are you complaining about complaining?

because he doesn't like that people are disagreeing with him and instead of going into detail about why he feels the game doesnt have enough content, and what could be done to improve it, he would rather make a new thread complaining about all the people "straw-manning" him.

[Skiros]

because he doesn't like that people are disagreeing with him and instead of going into detail about why he feels the game doesnt have enough content, and what could be done to improve it, he would rather make a new thread complaining about all the people "straw-manning" him.

The explanation was already provided pages ago?

You are quite literally the quintessential strawmanner that people are talking about in this thread. No matter how many times you repeat your insinuations, they are still wrong.

I've already provided explanations, and the best you guys could do so far is "my complaint is more important than yours so shut up".

Lol?

[Xirean]

@Skiros
"There's too much straw-manning!"
Proceeds to straw-man basically every response.
It really comes off as you call anything that disagrees with you an attempt at straw-manning you. And no, that's not me trying to straw-man you. That's genuinely what this conversation feels like.

I assume you started recently. Which yeah... you have 5 expansions of content to do. Many of us didn't, so we have nothing to do.

Try again. I've been playing for 7 years.

[HolyReign]

The forums are made for discussions, sharing of opinions, recommendations and alike.

If you're going to limit, how people can respond and take away valid points people have made, and label them as, "Strawmanning." Then you're not posting to have a discussion about your topic(s) but to garner support by people who share your view and your view alone A.K.A living in an Echo Chamber.

I would disagree with the lack of content to be done, and more with the likely case that there is content you're choosing not to do. Either it be content you're genuinely not interested in, or content you don't consider to be, "Content." because it doesn't match up with your idea of what true content should be.

I would tend to agree with others, who have called you out for being a Troll. Due to your poor attitude, obvious bating out of responses, and self-victimizing yourself to get whatever sympathy you can get to, "Support." your self induced plight.

[Kaurhz]

Square Enix should do nothing to improve Hrothgar hairstyles because I do not care about them. The intensity of the impact that Hrothgar hairstyles have is minimal in the long run. The Hrothgar hairstyles you have right now is not unsatisfactory. It doesn't hurt to be a bit realistic to stop asking for better Hrothgar hairstyles. Making Hrothgar hairstyles is draining dev resources and there's no guarantee they can always focus on the game to deliver it. If you don't like Hrothgar hairstyles please quit the game. Not every criticism is warranted.

Not that I disagree with your point. They should rework Hrothgar entirely as opposed to endlessly patching in hairstyles because of a broken race. But I'll let you try and use some self-awareness to try and figure out why the emboldened text is hypocritical coming from you.

Edit: Especially when one of your criticisms of the game has had you critiquing the character creation.

[Ransu]

Stop assuming that just because someone criticizes that the game lacks content, they only stick to one type of content and don't do anything else.

Stop assuming that just because someone criticizes that the game lacks content, they want tedious dailies and weeklies to artificially inflate the game time.

Stop assuming that just because someone criticizes job design, they want everything to be Heavensward levels of clunkiness.

Why are some people so quick to assume that anyone who criticizes the game fits some X stereotype? You must really lack imagination if you can't believe someone can think that the game lacks content even when they play at a casual pace and try out all kinds of different content. You must really lack imagination if you can't believe someone can think that jobs like SMN have become braindead without being an elitist tryhard. You must really lack imagination if you can't believe someone that wishes there is more to do in the game also does not want grinds that serve no purpose.

Here is the reason why these people strawman those who criticize the game: because it's far easier to dismiss criticisms when you just assume that the problem lies with the individual and not the game.

Because the game doesn't lack content.

[Theodric]

Because the game doesn't lack content.

I daresay it does, especially for those of us who are all caught up with the latest patch and want something other than a lengthy, tedious grind or battle with RNG to engage with. More content that can be jumped into immediately at any time like Crystalline Conflict would be wonderful as far as I'm concerned.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I daresay it does, especially for those of us who are all caught up with the latest patch and want something other than a lengthy, tedious grind or battle with RNG to engage with. More content that can be jumped into immediately at any time like Crystalline Conflict would be wonderful as far as I'm concerned.

But CC IS a lengthy, tedious grind.

You could hop into Eurkeka, Bozja at any time, just like CC.

The only lasting content I know of from any MMO was PvP (because people are weird) and stuff with low drop rates and RNG which required months/years of investment to complete. Which is apparently not what you want.