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    You are not the arbiter of PvP. You can be as salty as you want, you don't get to dictate how others play.

    Should SE incentivise certain (good) behaviour? Yes. Am I glad chat is as limited? ...um.. yes, actually. lol
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    These are not demands but simple observations and research. Take them however you want to perceive them but can you at least uphold a standard? If you think this is a godhood way of thinking please look at what other successful pvp games can achieve and give me an actual reason not to be "salty" when this gamemode isn't even comparable to mid tier pvp games. There is no reason not to further improve the gamemode. Not even financial reasons since it's only very small changes that you could implement that require no time.

    I have yet to find anybody with any better or more reasonable solutions other than "just play ranked".

    Also why would you want limited chat. If people abuse others in an open chat in whatever way shape or form just ban them. You will get rid of the toxic people and you get to actually communicate with your team. Two birds with one stone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NimRyo View Post
    These are not demands but simple observations and research. Take them however you want to perceive them but can you at least uphold a standard? If you think this is a godhood way of thinking please look at what other successful pvp games can achieve and give me an actual reason not to be "salty" when this gamemode isn't even comparable to mid tier pvp games. There is no reason not to further improve the gamemode. Not even financial reasons since it's only very small changes that you could implement that require no time.

    I have yet to find anybody with any better or more reasonable solutions other than "just play ranked".

    Because this is ultimately the right answer. You want competition. You want people to try and play serious. That is literally exactly what ranked is for. The opposite is also true. People HAVE to have a place to try new classes, relax and enjoy the mode or simply learn. That is casual. Most big MOBA and Arena style games have this division and for very good reason.

    Also why would you want limited chat. If people abuse others in an open chat in whatever way shape or form just ban them. You will get rid of the toxic people and you get to actually communicate with your team. Two birds with one stone.

    Because people suck. I don't need an armchair general ordering me around, or someone calling me slurs. I don't want to have to wait for them to get banned after they have already ruined my match. Limited chat solves the problem before it is ever an issue.
    Once again responded to your passages in the text above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    You are not the arbiter of PvP. You can be as salty as you want, you don't get to dictate how others play.

    Should SE incentivise certain (good) behaviour? Yes. Am I glad chat is as limited? ...um.. yes, actually. lol
    I literally want an open chat to give advice and tips to people, how do see that as me trying to dictate what other people should do, it's advice......
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    Quote Originally Posted by NimRyo View Post
    I literally want an open chat to give advice and tips to people, how do see that as me trying to dictate what other people should do, it's advice......
    Trust me, you cannot trust anyone with open chat, even yourself.
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    In case you are wondering why I have a different name, E and R are not very far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    You are not the arbiter of PvP. You can be as salty as you want, you don't get to dictate how others play.

    Should SE incentivise certain (good) behaviour? Yes. Am I glad chat is as limited? ...um.. yes, actually. lol
    This is why part of me is worried about trying to coach people now. You have people who have a huge influence in the outcome of your game with rank at stake and "you don't get to dictate how others play", it feels like trying to coach would be grounds for a report. Just quick macros with very specific instructions is all I want like "Don't split at the start", because so many people attempting to leeroy costs matches.....and of course not to get banned for it..
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