Selling of IP's

[Darthgummibear]

*FFXIV does better than it ever has*

The forums: '' OMG IS THE GAME DYING!?!?!+1 ''

Yeah, it gets a massive surge in population with the biggest game in town going down in flames obviously giving them a fair deal more resources, and what have they done with it? How is this "massive success" represented in the quality of the current product?

[Vahlnir]

Yeah, it gets a massive surge in population with the biggest game in town going down in flames obviously giving them a fair deal more resources, and what have they done with it? How is this "massive success" represented in the quality of the current product?

The quality is hit or miss depending on where the team's focus is, much like it always has been, but in some areas the quality has clearly taken a serious hit.

[Theodric]

The quality is hit or miss depending on where the team's focus is, much like it always has been, but in some areas the quality has clearly taken a serious hit.

Yep.

The problem, I suspect, is that some people are acting as though because they, specifically, don't care much about any given issue then nobody else should give a damn either.

At the risk of repeating myself across a great many threads...it doesn't matter if someone thinks the concerns about the game's lapse in quality isn't a concern. Many of us investing in FFXIV have experienced this sort of gaslighting elsewhere - particularly in WoW. Even to this very day, when people speak up about that game's issues, there's no shortage of devout defenders emerging from the woodwork to downplay and deflect criticism. It happened even as more and more people spoke up in an effort to divert Blizzard's path since people who are actually invested and critical are more prone to identifying problems that will fester than players who just shrug and accept whatever is placed upon their plate.

All of this has been pointed out a great many times already, though - and can be deduced with even a tiny bit of critical thinking. As such, to me the whole 'tHe GaMe Is MoRe PoPuLaR tHaN eVeR' angle strikes me as both disingenuous and deceptive.

It hasn't exactly reached the impressive heights of ten million active players that WoW enjoyed during the height of its golden age back in WOTLK. FFXIV's slow and steady rise in popularity is impressive in its own right, though let's not pretend as if a large part of the success is not in itself due to the lack of viable competition in the eyes of many MMO enthusiasts combined with the age old plight of 'sunk cost fallacy'.

I'd like the game to do well. I'd like to continue investing in it. That's why I - and many others - speak up when we see problems to be addressed.

[Kolsykol]

Yeah, it gets a massive surge in population with the biggest game in town going down in flames obviously giving them a fair deal more resources, and what have they done with it? How is this "massive success" represented in the quality of the current product?

FFXIV as far as I know has always been gaining players over time.
I rly wonder what game you're playing if you think that the quality hasn't gone up too.

This forum is just overly negative all the time, people always talk about toxic positivity but tbh this forum is toxic negativity incarnate and it's mainly the same people running rampant and who are ultimately for the most part mad about minor things in the grand scheme of things.
The forums don't really represent the general view of the game at all.

More like,

*SE sells 300 million dollars worth of IP and studios and invests it in blockchain and NFTs*

The forums: "OMG DOES SE KNOW WHAT THE HELL IT'S DOING ANYMORE?"

The answer is no, coincidentally.

This was about FFXIV, there is no evidence at all that FFXIV is suffering or is going to suffer because of what other branches of SE does.
Yoshi P also has an abnormal amount of control over the game too.
Their Western studios have been doing rly poorly too.

[Dzian]

FFXIV as far as I know has always been gaining players over time.
I rly wonder what game you're playing if you think that the quality hasn't gone up too..

Technically yes the game gains players over time but it's problem is keeping them..

The recent ads you see on social media are upto like 25million players now..

But what that actually means is 25 million people "have" played the game not 25 million people "do" play the game... someone could download the game create a character make get to level 2 on there first job and never play again... and still be counted in that 25 million.

The active population of the game hasn't grown that much at all on average over the games life.

You can see hints of this just with the login queues.. That big influx from WoW or whatever and the new expansion we recently got saw players getting login queues of hundreds if not thousands of players..
and yet literally weeks later those queues were all but gone..all those players arent here anymore.. bored and quit already.

The overall quality of the game has deterioated quite a lot. there's more examples of that than you can possibly list. content quality, jobs, story, aesthetics...

if the quality is continupusly imporving why are the 4.0 versions of many jobs like ast and brd widely regarded as the best iterations to date? the quality of jobs has basically tanked.

[Darthgummibear]

FFXIV as far as I know has always been gaining players over time.
I rly wonder what game you're playing if you think that the quality hasn't gone up too.

This forum is just overly negative all the time, people always talk about toxic positivity but tbh this forum is toxic negativity incarnate and it's mainly the same people running rampant and who are ultimately for the most part mad about minor things in the grand scheme of things.
The forums don't really represent the general view of the game at all.



This was about FFXIV, there is no evidence at all that FFXIV is suffering or is going to suffer because of what other branches of SE does.
Yoshi P also has an abnormal amount of control over the game too.
Their Western studios have been doing rly poorly too.

Back when WoW started to fall apart there was always a number of really vocal people who sounded just like you swearing up and down that "this is fine" while the proverbial house was on fire. As people started to leave the game there was less and less counter to those voices which just helped to reinforce the idea that nothing was wrong. Now here we are 10 years later, with that company struggling just to keep the game from collapsing. Keep your head in the sand if you want, but there are those of us who greatly desire for this game to succeed. Partly because we love the game and it's universe, and partly because there's nowhere else to go.

Seeing a lot of the same mistakes being made by this team just in the past year doesn't exactly do wonders to assuage any of these concerns. If these guys don't seriously step up their game over the next year, not only will they likely lose a significant chunk of their gains from WoW but they may also start losing loyal fans.