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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iyrnwaen View Post
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    Perfectly put, a very well-written post, especially the second half. I'm certain that literally every single player has the potential to at least reach gold (or similar) tiers if they apply themselves - hell, great game knowledge (the importance of lasthitting, jungle pathing, ward patterns, enemy skills and cooldowns etc.) can 100% carry you to Gold in LoL for example, even if you have the practical "skill" of a Bronze player. It's as you said, have patience and apply yourself and you'll improve no matter what.



    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    In the "old" days there was only 10 of you queueing. Good job climbing in the first 3 days the queues were active with unkillable healers I guess?
    Are you bitter or just ignorant? Or is it both?

    Sure, only 10 people queued, that's why 90% of the top 100 back then had hundreds of games played. If anything the "queue early to succeed" method was way, way more effective in CC because you had so many people with zero PvP knowledge queuing during the first few days. Like, you have to do some insane mental gymnastics to claim otherwise.
    And unkillable healers? Right, tell that to the top 10 healers I regularly killed solo with zero assistance because I actually had the option to play around their cooldowns. Imagine trying to shittalk Heavensward PvP when it had the by far highest skill ceiling we've ever had in FFXIV PvP.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by aeoncs View Post
    Perfectly put, a very well-written post, especially the second half. I'm certain that literally every single player has the potential to at least reach gold (or similar) tiers if they apply themselves - hell, great game knowledge (the importance of lasthitting, jungle pathing, ward patterns, enemy skills and cooldowns etc.) can 100% carry you to Gold in LoL for example, even if you have the practical "skill" of a Bronze player. It's as you said, have patience and apply yourself and you'll improve no matter what.





    Are you bitter or just ignorant? Or is it both?

    Sure, only 10 people queued, that's why 90% of the top 100 back then had hundreds of games played. If anything the "queue early to succeed" method was way, way more effective in CC because you had so many people with zero PvP knowledge queuing during the first few days. Like, you have to do some insane mental gymnastics to claim otherwise.
    And unkillable healers? Right, tell that to the top 10 healers I regularly killed solo with zero assistance because I actually had the option to play around their cooldowns. Imagine trying to shittalk Heavensward PvP when it had the by far highest skill ceiling we've ever had in FFXIV PvP.
    Imagine pretending to be a "top 100" player on the forums in a game that has always had dead pvp that no one cared about? The feast was fun, but not very good. And HW really? Back when you had your pve kit so combat was slow as hell with sleep spams? lol no. PvP back then was even worse.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Imagine pretending to be a "top 100" player on the forums in a game that has always had dead pvp that no one cared about? The feast was fun, but not very good. And HW really? Back when you had your pve kit so combat was slow as hell with sleep spams? lol no. PvP back then was even worse.
    "pretending" when you can literally look it up. Plenty of people have always cared about it, you acting like a condescending sh*ttalker doesn't change that. Have less people cared than in other big MMOs? Sure, but that's beside the point.
    How was the combat slow as hell when we literally had the same / a similar GCD, our full PvE kit as well as PvP skills, all of which amounted to like 10-15~ OGCDs per job? Like, are you even thinking about what you're typing? Also, "sleep spam" when DR existed and only WHMs and BLMs could even do it; that sure was worse than being unga bunga AoE stunned, silenced, rooted and polymorphed without DR every 15-25 seconds by almost any job! Also, you thinking that players had the time to spam sleeps in Feast really shows how much you participated back then.

    This will be my last reply to you since you have repeatedly shown that you have no idea what you're talking about and talking to you seems like a waste of time in this instance.
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    Last edited by aeoncs; 05-03-2022 at 02:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aeoncs View Post
    "pretending" when you can literally look it up. Plenty of people have always cared about it, you acting like a condescending sh*ttalker doesn't change that. Have less people cared than in other big MMOs? Sure, but that's beside the point.
    How was the combat slow as hell when we literally had the same / a similar GCD, our full PvE kit as well as PvP skills, all of which amounted to like 10-15~ OGCDs per job? Like, are you even thinking about what you're typing? Also, "sleep spam" when DR existed and only WHMs and BLMs could even do it; that sure was worse than being unga bunga AoE stunned, silenced, rooted and polymorphed without DR every 15-25 seconds by almost any job! Also, you thinking that players had the time to spam sleeps in Feast really shows how much you participated back then.

    This will be my last reply to you since you have repeatedly shown that you have no idea what you're talking about and talking to you seems like a waste of time in this instance.
    That's nice, but hey keep pretending to be good. BTW your character name isn't listed going all the way back to season 12 since they don't record beyond for your data center so lul. Edit: double lol, you did it in season 2 on the old DC with 56 wins. So basically you win traded and never even went beyond gold rank with a rating of 965 lmfao. That's an insanely low rating. I wouldn't be remotely proud of being top 100 with that rating as that basically says the pool was extremely small and you were the bottom of that barrel.

    Not saying the current mode is good or even the ranking is good, but pretending the old mode was actually good or even popular is laughable. Even at the start of seasons queue times were relatively long. Mid season? forget about it. Late season? lawl enjoy that 90 minute queue. Time will tell with CC, but several weeks later the queue is still instant pop and the wolves den is still packed.
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    I'll say this to anyone that is "stuck"; If I could climb to Crystal rank on pre-6.11 GNB, anyone can.
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  7. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    So basically you win traded and never even went beyond gold rank with a rating of 965 lmfao. That's an insanely low rating. I wouldn't be remotely proud of being top 100 with that rating as that basically says the pool was extremely small and you were the bottom of that barrel.
    Yeah, I just can't let that part stand since it's pretty much slander. Why do you insist to keep speaking on matters you clearly have zero actual knowledge of? You don't know how rating/ranking worked back then and that they changed it in season 3, which is fine, but stop acting like you have any idea what you're talking about. As soon as you hit Gold you pretty much lost almost the same rating for a loss that you gained for a win and even in Silver it was just a slight positive - the pool was just as big as it was in season 3-4 (which is when I stopped playing Feast altogether), most people simply couldn't climb because it was so punishing to lose. I mean, there were still countless players with hundreds of games played and the majority was simply stuck in Silver. There's a reason that only a handful made it to Diamond in seasons 1-2 as Plat was pretty much a wall for most.

    It's also cute that you think that I wintraded just because I actually knew how to carry - like seriously, who wintrades to reach rank 71? Not to mention that it was way harder / less consistent to wintrade than it is now. I had similar winrates in season 3 and 4, but since you needed to play way more because of the ranking changes in season 3, I just couldn't manage to reach top 100 because I didn't have the time to play hundreds of games a season with the queue times being what they were for DPS.

    I ranked mid to late season in two of the three seasons I played, and the queues were never so bad that I had to wait 90 minutes, or anything close to it, even as a DPS - at least during prime time. They obviously still sucked but that was mainly because barely anyone wanted to queue as healer.

    You don't know how ranking and matchmaking worked back then and you miraculously backpaddled on combat being slow, because you probably realized what an absurd claim that was to begin with when compared with today's PvP combat and I'm beginning to think that you didn't really participate at all; yet you keep talking and talking. Disagreeing with me is one thing, proofless slander because you can't fathom that people could actually carry is another. Welcome to my blacklist, I guess.
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    Last edited by aeoncs; 05-03-2022 at 06:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aeoncs View Post
    Yeah, I just can't let that part stand since it's pretty much slander. Why do you insist to keep speaking on matters you clearly have zero actual knowledge of? You don't know how rating/ranking worked back then and that they changed it in season 3, which is fine, but stop acting like you have any idea what you're talking about. As soon as you hit Gold you pretty much lost almost the same rating for a loss that you gained for a win and even in Silver it was just a slight positive - the pool was just as big as it was in season 3-4 (which is when I stopped playing Feast altogether), most people simply couldn't climb because it was so punishing to lose. I mean, there were still countless players with hundreds of games played and the majority was simply stuck in Silver. There's a reason that only a handful made it to Diamond in seasons 1-2 as Plat was pretty much a wall for most.

    It's also cute that you think that I wintraded just because I actually knew how to carry - like seriously, who wintrades to reach rank 71? Not to mention that it was way harder / less consistent to wintrade than it is now. I had similar winrates in season 3 and 4, but since you needed to play way more because of the ranking changes in season 3, I just couldn't manage to reach top 100 because I didn't have the time to play hundreds of games a season with the queue times being what they were for DPS.

    I ranked mid to late season in two of the three seasons I played, and the queues were never so bad that I had to wait 90 minutes, or anything close to it, even as a DPS - at least during prime time. They obviously still sucked but that was mainly because barely anyone wanted to queue as healer.

    You don't know how ranking and matchmaking worked back then and you miraculously backpaddled on combat being slow, because you probably realized what an absurd claim that was to begin with when compared with today's PvP combat and I'm beginning to think that you didn't really participate at all; yet you keep talking and talking. Disagreeing with me is one thing, proofless slander because you can't fathom that people could actually carry is another. Welcome to my blacklist, I guess.
    Thanks for the good laugh, keep on pretending you're good though
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