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  1. #371
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    so is general negative toxicity. This crap goes both ways.
    And because crap goes both ways we should tolerate both? Sure, general negative toxicity is bad, but it's the most obvious bad there is.

    Toxic positivity happens rampantly throughout these forums, yet when it's mentioned people love excusing it.
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  2. #372
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    I love the pettiness because god forbid I criticism this game in any way shape or form. Suppose I touched a nerve.



    I love the irony that it's okay to have this toxic attitude but simply criticizing aspects of the game I dislike means I should just quit. You're allowed to adore this game and every aspect of it just as I'm allowed to criticism it. That doesn't mean I dislike the game as a whole. Put simply, if you don't like my opinion. Kindly take your own advice and go find someone else to reply to.
    You're not criticizing you're complaining.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    He's right though, the OP is wanting to add stuff to make people log in daily, something the director himself does not want people to do. Yoshi-P wants people to play when they want, sub when they want, take breaks, and not feel pressured to keep playing. The OP wants to pressure people to keep playing, so what they want is the opposite of what the director himself wants from this game. Hell, most players would likely tell them the same thing, that they don't want to be pressured to log in daily.
    This right here. The game gets tons of content and the good kind. I don't want WoW's level of content where I'm obligated to log in every day or I fall behind.
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  3. #373
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    You're not criticizing you're complaining.
    To be fair, both look very similar when someone doesn't really give a damn. People with valid complaints in other far more reasonable threads have been accused of the same. Sometimes criticism involves complaints, it can't all be flowers and rainbows. Critiques aren't always good, and pushing to solve for negatives should be encouraged and not stifled.

    That said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    This right here. The game gets tons of content and the good kind. I don't want WoW's level of content where I'm obligated to log in every day or I fall behind.
    Yeah. And again, I think this game's problem is that it has A LOT. A lot gets added, and not everyone enjoys it.

    Zepla herself even said that she didn't enjoy the game all at once, and took every bit of content on her own terms. Some days she was into decorating houses, sometimes she did hunts, she'd do raids on the days her static\friends would agree on, sometimes she'd go out and try to do Vistas or Triple Triad. There is a lot, people just spam the one thing they like, get bored of it, can't seem to enjoy the other stuff the game has and then say "wow, this game's barren" when it's not.

    If anything, again, I'd say the game has so much stuff that a lot of it is added in an incomplete state. And the more Square adds stuff like that, the more they end up having to go back and finish stuff.

    If we get stuff like WoW, either a) it's FOMO and no one likes that, or b) it's like the Maiden's Raphsody event that no one likes because it's the same old boring stuff every year.
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  4. #374
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    You're not criticizing you're complaining.
    You say this and yet in the very post you decided to take a potshot at me, you ignored my remark on ways they could improve the content. Like Midareyukki said, criticism will often look like complaints from the perspective of someone who doesn't feel the same. Naturally, you don't feel the same way about the game as I do. My criticism will feel like complaining because you don't feel the game is lacking. It's the same as someone who prefers current Summoner or the removal of Kaiten. Many will dismiss legitimate criticism because they prefer the changes.

    I also never once mentioned WoW or its content structure. Nor did I say I want content where you're "obligated to log in every day." You're assuming my position without actually listening to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    He's right though, the OP is wanting to add stuff to make people log in daily, something the director himself does not want people to do. Yoshi-P wants people to play when they want, sub when they want, take breaks, and not feel pressured to keep playing. The OP wants to pressure people to keep playing, so what they want is the opposite of what the director himself wants from this game. Hell, most players would likely tell them the same thing, that they don't want to be pressured to log in daily.
    Literally no one said they want to add stuff to make people log in daily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    They should remove the sub then and make the game buy to play. There is no real purpose in it. It would be more consumer friendly.
    When they wanted to be that? Yoshi tell people fuck off if you don't like it ,but did he say stop paying? No he want people to pay but not care to deliver the goods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    he want people to pay but not care to deliver the goods.
    Oh no, he delivers the goods; it's just that he delivers Chuck E. Cheese, when you ordered Domino's.
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    Why so many here worship yoshi? Even when what he say and do do not match? You can't stop play when there nothing to do but don't stop pay, sounds logical sine how?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    When they wanted to be that? Yoshi tell people fuck off if you don't like it ,but did he say stop paying? No he want people to pay but not care to deliver the goods.
    Uh, no? He said you could take a break if you feel the drought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    And because crap goes both ways we should tolerate both? Sure, general negative toxicity is bad, but it's the most obvious bad there is.

    Toxic positivity happens rampantly throughout these forums, yet when it's mentioned people love excusing it.
    To be honest, I see more negativity than positivity in these forums. I know this place is normally used as a somewhat complaint/suggestions kind of thing but the ratio seems very unbalanced. Although I say this but eh whatever, it really doesnt matter. People post what they want, I just wanted to point out what I see thats all.
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