Why Alphinaud and Alisaie are so well treated despite being just kids

[EagleDynamics]

I'm not sure if you've read any other posts in this thread of the person you're responding to, but lets just say reading isn't really a strength of his, lmao.

yes i did. his reading isn't as much a problem as much as him being disingenuous.

[DPZ2]

Well yeah, you are the person that brought up "teenaged rulers and military leaders (though not necessarily "supreme commanders") in real life history" as a comparison, so I wanted to address that.

Your method of "addressing that" was specious at best.

A military commander who is unaware of a political assassination plot is not responsible for said plot.

Since said military commander isn't even in the chain of command responsible to the leader of said nation, it is doubly in error.

[AmpelioB]

they are rich

[EagleDynamics]

Your method of "addressing that" was specious at best.

A military commander who is unaware of a political assassination plot is not responsible for said plot.

Since said military commander isn't even in the chain of command responsible to the leader of said nation, it is doubly in error.

is this about alphi and the crystal braves? alphi accepted responsibility for the whole assassination banquet in a cutscene where he admitted that his arrogance was the cause because he was the crystal braves' creator.

[Vryn]

Sixteen-year-olds are regarded as adults in Sharlayan, and perhaps in the other city-states as well.

They're at an awkward stage physically where Elezen mature slower than other races, so seem younger to us than they should be, but in that world I think people would have to get used to putting those impressions aside and treating them like adults if they know they're adults. (Having to regard the childlike Lalafells as equal adults probably also changes their natural perception a bit.)

They are regarded as adults in the majority of the real world both modern and ancient as well. I think people forget the average life expectancy used to be 30 for the majority of people.

[kpxmanifesto]

yes i did. his reading isn't as much a problem as much as him being disingenuous.

I'm glad I wasn't the only person who noticed that, lol.

[ZeraSkiratea]

They are regarded as adults in the majority of the real world both modern and ancient as well. I think people forget the average life expectancy used to be 30 for the majority of people.

People also forget that "life expectancy" dosnt mean "most people die with thirty" the life expectancy was so low because(in part) child mortaility rates being super high.


If you have a ton of people die when they are like 5, that will drag down the average significantly

[Lihtleita]

2.0 cutscenes imply they were staying in Ul'dah where your worth is determined by how wealthy you are. Theres your answer.

[Vryn]

People also forget that "life expectancy" doesn't mean "most people die with thirty" the life expectancy was so low because(in part) child mortality rates were super high.


If you have a ton of people, who die when they are like 5, that will drag down the average significantly

Accurate but not valid simultaneously, people in Rome lived as long as we did today if they were wealthy. However, if you were not, and this went for the majority of the middle ages, your actual life expectancy was around 30 - 40. Most societies asked their elders to kill themselves to save food in the winter, especially if crops were unsuccessful. Babies did die since 1 in 8 were premature, and you couldn't do anything but prey. Your wife was also likely to die during this process, and a large number did, but still, most children did reach age 7. However, the majority of death happened because of lack of food, malnutrition, cuts, disease, broken bones and what we would consider mundane conditions or annoyances such as toothache, the common cold, STD, ear infections etc.

Children in most societies in Europe were considered adults at age 13 and were expected to learn and perform their duties. However, modern society prolongs childhood to an abnormal degree. Even children today look far younger than their counterparts 30-40 years ago because many issues such as child nutrition in the west have been solved. Even ten years ago, many of our nations did not prolong education till age 18. We allowed people to leave at 15-16 to find work, but this has become untenable as society has gone from valuing low skilled labour to highly skilled labour, demanding a degree or 5+ years of experience, which are untenable by a 16-year-old.

[DPZ2]

is this about alphi and the crystal braves? alphi accepted responsibility for the whole assassination banquet in a cutscene where he admitted that his arrogance was the cause because he was the crystal braves' creator.

Not exactly. The WoL and Scions become persona non grata. No blame was attached to Alphinaud by those in power. How Alphinaud himself felt may have been established in the cut scene. But the real perpetrator died at the banquet, and the main corrupter of the Crystal Braves warmly embraced death while performing a summoning ritual two expansions later.