They nerfed stone Vigil.

[Jason_Ashford]

the duality of these forums is hilarious and ridiculous.

Players before the dungeon changes: "man, i got Toto-Rak AGAIN. I hate how tedious and annoying it is to hunt down those batteries."

Players after the dungeon changes: "man, i HATE how they've dumbed down Toto-Rak. Why did they take away everything that made it so unique?"

Like ???? Not even a month ago you were griping about how tedious those mechanics were, and now you want them back?

[Barachim]

I don't think all the mechanics need to return, but it kinda feels like they overcorrected with certain dungeon overhauls.

[Lunalepsy]

Im not talking about the boss they changed because trusts couldn’t interact with the old cannons that are now just sitting in the background.

In the final boss the ice puddles the dragon used to drop would remain on the floor and cause damage to anyone standing on them. They now disappear making it super easy to dodge the dragon that gives a 5 second telegraph on its dives.

Dear SE… the dungeons are easy enough…. If this is about the trusts too then at least add something else in.

They want to simplify the whole process for everyone. It's boring!

[Atelier-Bagur]

the duality of these forums is hilarious and ridiculous.

Players before the dungeon changes: "man, i got Toto-Rak AGAIN. I hate how tedious and annoying it is to hunt down those batteries."

Players after the dungeon changes: "man, i HATE how they've dumbed down Toto-Rak. Why did they take away everything that made it so unique?"

Like ???? Not even a month ago you were griping about how tedious those mechanics were, and now you want them back?

Welcome to the FFXIV Forum community where nobody knows yet everybody knows what they want.

[BokoToloko]

I don't really get those changes but a lot of people here seems to feel personally attacked for these nerfs.

I never wanted to get dungeons below level 60 and still don't want. No point in getting mad over some dungeons you go with 1/3 of your kit anyways. Some people really need to set priorities straight instead of feeling every change is made for SE to treat the players condescendingly.

It's also crazy how these changes came along with the Duty Helper systems. Crazy coincidence, that.

[Raoabolic]

Players: Hey, this dungeon has some dead ends with nothing to do. Can you make it more apparent where to go or at least give us a reason to hit those dead ends?

SE: Of course. :^)

*Makes a hallway*
Well, at least it's a very pretty hallway.

[ACE135]

Im not talking about the boss they changed because trusts couldn’t interact with the old cannons that are now just sitting in the background.

In the final boss the ice puddles the dragon used to drop would remain on the floor and cause damage to anyone standing on them. They now disappear making it super easy to dodge the dragon that gives a 5 second telegraph on its dives.

Dear SE… the dungeons are easy enough…. If this is about the trusts too then at least add something else in.

My guess is that the trusts can't recognize the puddles after they are placed on the ground and the aoe marker is gone so that they inevitably would run onto them. So they needed to be removed.

[AmpelioB]

why does it matter?

[kpxmanifesto]

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Did sprouts even have difficulty with this boss? Such a nonsense change in my opinion.

[ACE135]

Did sprouts even have difficulty with this boss? Such a nonsense change in my opinion.

Not sprouts but trusts.