So...About Blue Mage

[Auryan]

FFXIV players have consistently placed a high value on aesthetic features as much as they do gameplay. Why else on earth would they have created a 1000 page megathread asking for male Viera? For an enormous amount of people, character customisations = content. Unfortunately Blue Mages never had such organization and thus here we are today.

It's been the same story each and every time. Broken content is released, we have players who speak against it and those of us who do are shouted down by ardent defenders of things like at-launch Blue Mage and the limited races. I've seen where these paths end up.

Can't wait for them to finally wake up and realize that Blue Mage and limited jobs in general were the wrong way to go about things, and subsequently issue a fix. Let's just hope it doesn't take them until the end of FFXIV's second season to get it done like how they procrastinated with Summoner right up until Endwalker.

A lot of players, sure, but all of them? Nope. In that hundreds page long thread where people constantly squabble about things, there where thousands of players not giving a rat's ass about the entire thing. Don't let an echo chamber paint the whole picture.
BLU didn't get the same reaction, because people just played and enjoyed it for what it is. It's funny when you stated that BLU didn't get the same backlash as Viera as a sort of a communal failure to raise a committed protest, when actually there just wasn't enough anger there in the first place.

I can't for the life of me think of any broken content being released. Buggy? Sure. But broken? Not even Diadem 1.0 would be considered as broken, just very unpopular. I guess my definition is different to yours.

Dare to dream, it's free after all. Just don't be disappointed when you wake up.

[aveyond-dreams]

Don't let an echo chamber paint the whole picture.

There are legitimate issues that need addressing. The fact that anyone got it in their heads to remove Samurai's signature ability is something people struggle to believe. The fact that Blue Mage released in the state that it did and they were "ok!" with how limited Hrothgar were at launch speaks to either: complete mismanagement of the individual project, or a lack of necessary resources to complete the project. A lot of their concerns are valid ones and need addressing. Ignoring and shouting down other people's concerns when they began to notice cracks in the foundation was a major factor leading up to WoW's downfall.

BLU didn't get the same reaction, because people just played and enjoyed it for what it is. It's funny when you stated that BLU didn't get the same backlash as Viera as a sort of a communal failure to raise a committed protest, when actually there just wasn't enough anger there in the first place.

I was here when Blue Mage was announced and launched. The reaction was divisive, with people somehow trying to justify why it was ok for Shiva's ice bow attack to take 200 runs of EX to obtain. The outrage was there all right but it was scattered across 300 different threads, not a megathread. The failure to organize is why Blue Mage is still in this useless state, with nothing long-lasting or worth pursuing being added to it. Less longevity than a Dissidia Opera Omnia event.

Again, it's a conflict between those of us who have a high standard for what we receive here and those who are ok with...whatever that was supposed to be, and still is.

I can't for the life of me think of any broken content being released. Buggy? Sure. But broken? Not even Diadem 1.0 would be considered as broken, just very unpopular. I guess my definition is different to yours.

Dare to dream, it's free after all. Just don't be disappointed when you wake up.

We clearly have a different definition of what constitutes broken because the fact that this new mode of PVP released with a bug that renders Bard in permanent walking mode is something that I find completely unacceptable, which is to say nothing of whatever went wrong with the lottery system. Yeah, that is *broken* and so is having a job permanently locked 20 levels behind cap and locked into old, outdated content with lackluster rewards no one at max level seems to take interest in beyond 2 weeks.

[Auryan]

There are legitimate issues that need addressing. The fact that anyone got it in their heads to remove Samurai's signature ability is something people struggle to believe. The fact that Blue Mage released in the state that it did and they were "ok!" with how limited Hrothgar were at launch speaks to either: complete mismanagement of the individual project, or a lack of necessary resources to complete the project. A lot of their concerns are valid ones and need addressing. Ignoring and shouting down other people's concerns when they began to notice cracks in the foundation was a major factor leading up to WoW's downfall.

Kaiten was certainly a SAM ability, yes, but when was it retroactively decided that it was anything resembling "signature"? Must've missed that memo. I didn't say that there weren't valid criticism to give, but rather your view is affected by the fact that you hang out on the Forums. You know, the place where people go to exclusively complain about anything. And outside of that you get a whole variety of opinions on many topics.

I was here when Blue Mage was announced and launched. The reaction was divisive, with people somehow trying to justify why it was ok for Shiva's ice bow attack to take 200 runs of EX to obtain. The outrage was there all right but it was scattered across 300 different threads, not a megathread. The failure to organize is why Blue Mage is still in this useless state, with nothing long-lasting or worth pursuing being added to it. Less longevity than a Dissidia Opera Omnia event.

Again, it's a conflict between those of us who have a high standard for what we receive here and those who are ok with...whatever that was supposed to be, and still is.

I remember those threads. The same endless talking points over and over, but this time it was mostly done by the same small group of people. They died out because no one outside of the Forums took them seriously.

We clearly have a different definition of what constitutes broken because the fact that this new mode of PVP released with a bug that renders Bard in permanent walking mode is something that I find completely unacceptable, which is to say nothing of whatever went wrong with the lottery system. Yeah, that is *broken* and so is having a job permanently locked 20 levels behind cap and locked into old, outdated content with lackluster rewards no one at max level seems to take interest in beyond 2 weeks.

BRD is a bit buggy, but easily worked around. Happens and is fixable. Lottery system not working as intended? Fix asap and apologize. Sometimes things go wrong and it's good to be transparent when things go south.

BLU working intended as a Wondrous Tails like content? Well, yeah, they said so from the very beginning. Why are you acting surprised? Not balanced = not doing content with balance in mind. Simple enough.