Will increased success bring more content to FF14

[Ath192]

SB was able to offer a lot though and didn’t have to cut anything out. SB gave us an entire housing district with no bugs. They gave us diving(new). They gave us spear fishing(new). We were getting more dungeons, Ultimate, data center travel, 4 relic weapon zones etc. And they did all this without having to cut other content. Compare this to ShB which cut Hildibrand,allied beast tribes quests, the number of dungeons we get per patch, deep dungeon etc. And a lot of this stuff was confirmed cut before covid even came.

I'm not defending SHB, they know they coasted. But I want to believe they're stepping things up.

[Vahlnir]

I'm not defending SHB, they know they coasted. But I want to believe they're stepping things up.

In some ways they are, like the new Alliance raid. The amount of work that went into that was obvious from the moment we entered it. Soken's work was top notch as well, but it always is. He's probably the one constant that we can rely on. But in most other ways...yeah, there's no way that they are stepping things up. There's a pretty obvious regression happening across the board.

[KizuyaKatogami]

I'm not defending SHB, they know they coasted. But I want to believe they're stepping things up.

I mean just from the expansion release they already cut an entire dungeon set of gear from the 89 dungeon lol. We can give “reasons” for it all we want but it’s still the truth. They are still giving out reused gear and not even making it dyable(87 dungeon set). Job design is in the gutter. Healers are still on suicide watch, even moreso than in the past. I don’t see things stepping up at all. When the main developer tells you the most expensive thing this expansion was animating a characters foot on a balcony….that’s pretty telling.

[Ath192]

I mean just from the expansion release they already cut an entire dungeon set of gear from the 89 dungeon lol. We can give “reasons” for it all we want but it’s still the truth. They are still giving out reused gear and not even making it dyable(87 dungeon set). Job design is in the gutter. Healers are still on suicide watch, even moreso than in the past. I don’t see things stepping up at all. When the main developer tells you the most expensive thing this expansion was animating a characters foot on a balcony….that’s pretty telling.

Well jeez xD this is too much of depressing take lol. But I think its more productive to keep asking for the things you want to see. Stewing won't get us anywhere. Imagine if the forums were full of threads asking for features with a lot of thought put into them rather than people with torches and pitch forks. I'm not an SE apologist by any means I'd like to see a million things more but this is making it sound like everyone should throw the game in the garbage right now.

A big net loss I see is the amount of effort they put into the MSQ that most people only play once in comparison to content with good replayability value for sure. It would keep us from getting super bored if they invested in the latter.

[Syln]

And how do you think all those failing live services squareenix spawn from time to time are funded ? :3

[Darthgummibear]

FFXIV is following in WoW's footsteps. WoW raked in more and more money, and began delivering less and less content. You go from expansions that have 10 zones and tons of questing content and several meaty and polished patches coming out every 3 months, to expansions with 4 zones and embarrassingly buggy, content-light patches that come out once every 9 months.

I so desperately wish this weren't true because there's nowhere else to go...but I can't ignore my own eyes.

[Kolsykol]

They revamped PvP and I imagine they'll keep working on that, revamping MSQ dungeons, trials etc.
We're getting a graphical update which is going to be an immense amount of work, the new Dungeon type ( Criterion ) and Island Sanctury.
The production value of the MSQ also went up a lot and this is obviously on top of all of the other normal content too like Savage, Extremes, Ultimate, Dungeons, a new zone I think is coming too like Bozja/ Eureka for the Relic weapons.

I think people who act like we're not getting more content aren't paying attention, it's just not going to happen in a day or a single patch.
And then you have people who get so insanely hung up on the Housing issue ( even tho most of them were totally wrong about what the issue even was ) or point to the Beast Tribes being delayed ( which again we don't even know exactly why, it might be getting reworked ).

The graphical update alone is pretty insane, especially since there's so much custom stuff in FFXIV and they're actually adding and changing stuff to the world too as Yoshida showcased in the Live Letter.
It's not really comparable to in WoW where there's so much automated stuff and where old content was left behind.

Edit: Just throwing Adventure Plates in there too I am just remembering more the more I think about it there's smaller stuff I am missing.
There's obviously the Ishgard and Housing rework etc regardless of the drama.

[IdowhatIwant]

They revamped PvP and I imagine they'll keep working on that, revamping MSQ dungeons, trials etc.
We're getting a graphical update which is going to be an immense amount of work, the new Dungeon type ( Criterion ) and Island Sanctury.
The production value of the MSQ also went up a lot and this is obviously on top of all of the other normal content too like Savage, Extremes, Ultimate, Dungeons, a new zone I think is coming too like Bozja/ Eureka for the Relic weapons.

I think people who act like we're not getting more content aren't paying attention, it's just not going to happen in a day or a single patch.
And then you have people who get so insanely hung up on the Housing issue ( even tho most of them were totally wrong about what the issue even was ) or point to the Beast Tribes being delayed ( which again we don't even know exactly why, it might be getting reworked ).

The graphical update alone is pretty insane, especially since there's so much custom stuff in FFXIV and they're actually adding and changing stuff to the world too as Yoshida showcased in the Live Letter.
It's not really comparable to in WoW where there's so much automated stuff and where old content was left behind.

Edit: Just throwing Adventure Plats in there too I am just remembering more the more I think about it there's smaller stuff I am missing.

No idea, how many times I have to tell people, PvP revamp is nothing new, this is the third of forth one. It is in no way new content outside of the new pvp mode which replaced a different one. So we lost feast for overwatch.
Revamping ARR MSQ was promised in HW as they were aware how long it was and how many players were quitting because of it. It is actually insane it has taken them this long to address this problem. Revamping the MSQ dungeons and trials is really just homogenizing the game more, as the ARR dungeons were some of the more unique dungeons in the game but over all that's opinion based, and I don't really care as I will likely never touch this content again.

Graphical update has happened when ps3 support stopped. Personally they need to update the engine over all so it is no longer working on the skeleton of 1.0. Graphics make the game look nice, but it doesn't change the problems and limitations of the game that are left from the 1.0 skeleton. Making the game look better, doesn't fix glaring issues with it's over all engine. Graphical update happened once 6 years ago, and it's happening again 6 years later, would not be surprised if it happened again 6 years from now as well as 2 more pvp revamps.

Production value of MSQ goes up each expansion, how ever it doesn't mean it is better. EW I personally think had one of the worst MSQs and was not very fun to play through with it being mostly a 40 hour movie. Savage, and the extremes I have not noticed any obvious production value increase. Getting a new zone to spam fates in is not what I would call engaging content or fun content.

I think people that act like we are getting a whole bunch of content have not been paying attention. Most of this crap is not new, and some of it has been am issue for years. It's to often people praise the game for repeating a cycle claiming it's all fresh and new, while ignoring the fact that there isn't really a large variety of content in the game as a whole.

I think criterion and island sanctuary are a step in the right direction, but it also depends on what this content actually entails as there is very little detail as to what it is, and I hope for something good, I expect disappointment.

[Jeeqbit]

At least the ARR zones feel full when compared to something like; the Sea of Clouds and how 70% of it can remain completely unexplored and have no repercussions on your gameplay because you do not need to return there ever again for the MSQ after you finish that portion of the MSQ

You explore the rest of the Sea of Clouds in many sidequests including ones which don't begin there, job quests, beast tribe quests, the alliance raid and dungeon unlock quests. I go there to hunt and I've been there to do fates or learn spells. I can say the same about the other areas you mentioned and the moon might have more once we have been through all of the 6.x patches.

Every expansion has been more successful than the last. We have only gotten fewer dungeons, longer patch cycles, and roughly the same amount of content. I would argue we have gotten less content vs ARR.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...9&d=1646266468

[KizuyaKatogami]

You explore the rest of the Sea of Clouds in many sidequests including ones which don't begin there, job quests, beast tribe quests, the alliance raid and dungeon unlock quests. I go there to hunt and I've been there to do fates or learn spells. I can say the same about the other areas you mentioned and the moon might have more once we have been through all of the 6.x patches.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...9&d=1646266468

That literally doesn’t prove anything though. Oh wow there’s more story stuff compared to the very first expansion for the game. I would love for them to do a comparison of 4.1 to 5.3 or even 6.1 lol.