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    Quote Originally Posted by CrownySuccubus View Post
    The story itself says that, though. Cookingway at one point flat out says that the Ancients sealed their own fates by "striving for perfection" instead of merely accepting suffering and mortal limitations. And lest we try to say "Well Cookingway was just one character with their own viewpoint", this is backed up by the devs stating that the Plenty was where the Ancients were headed before the Final Days and whatnot.
    I think there's a difference between deserving in some moral sense because you have sinned - and falling victim to a fatal flaw of your society that will inevitably lead to ruin. The difference might be subtle but I think it's important.
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    Victoria Crowny
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    Quote Originally Posted by KariTheFox View Post
    I think there's a difference between deserving in some moral sense because you have sinned - and falling victim to a fatal flaw of your society that will inevitably lead to ruin. The difference might be subtle but I think it's important.
    That would be nice, if the story didn't repeatedly try to entwine those two things. For example, the strawman "eW wOn'T aCcEpT iT !" ancients that Venat debated with just before the Sundering. And once again, the devs have flat out stated that they intended Ancient society to be "scary".

    The narrative definitely pushes "fatal flaws" and "deadly sins" as the same exact thing.
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