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    RayneBoemir's Avatar
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    Rhotitar Bhaldeyrasyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    If that's the standard, I guess the sundered need another round of sundering then

    Let's see, the Ironworks of 8UC who risked the whole word to dissappear. The Eorzean, Ala Mhigans and Domans who's willing to kill conscripted soldier to take back their lost freedom instead of "moving on". People in general who went ahead with their revenge for their loss (e.g estinien killing nidhogg, etc.). And many others. In fact, the sundered are more prone to violence than the unsundered.

    As I've said before, we use our standard as mortal to unfairly judge the Ancients. We say "those lives have been lost, move on", because in real world, there's zero chance people coming back to life. That's not the case with the Ancients, probably. They have the means to bring back those they have lost, it's not a zero chance. You're telling me that we won't do the same should it's also the case for us or the sundered?

    Ah yes, venat is so deeply empathized that she chose to not tell anyone about the final days, and prefer being vague as hell even when confronting the Ancients regarding their ""mistake"".
    That is a terrible outlook how can you sacrifice other lives whether human or not to fulfill your selfish desires.

    The Ascians view the sundered as imperfect life and unworthy of living inheriting their world as I recalled, not so much disimilar to how some human races view other human races and animals.

    The game touches on a lot of subjects pertaining to how humanity functions as a species.
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by RayneBoemir View Post
    That is a terrible outlook how can you sacrifice other lives whether human or not to fulfill your selfish desires.
    Just an opinion based on how you value these other lives. We value them to the order of putting them in a burger in the case of animals. Different people have different perspectives on the ethics of that - most of this planet isn't vegan, and I certainly am not.

    The Ascians view the sundered as imperfect life and unworthy of living inheriting their world as I recalled, not so much disimilar to how some human races view other human races and animals.

    The game touches on a lot of subjects pertaining to how humanity functions as a species.
    Do you mind pointing me to the human race that is the result of splicing and dicing another human race to the point that something with much shorter lifespans and various other attributes emerges, wiping out the latter's culture entirely? Just so we're actually working with a proper analogy.
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    Nabriales Majestic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Do you mind pointing me to the human race that is the result of splicing and dicing another human race to the point that something with much shorter lifespans and various other attributes emerges, wiping out the latter's culture entirely? Just so we're actually working with a proper analogy.
    So much this, tbh. There is a reason that like 55% of the lore forum call Venat's actions genocide. Because in one of the ways we consider Genocide [the entire destruction of a people's culture] they were
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