Rampant cheating in PVP?

[CptBuckyOhare]

So quick chat should be nerfed then yeah? No coordination because that's a skill? No target macro either to help your team burst because that would be unfair. Can't have the LB status because saying LB at 90% is essentially the same as giving a timer for when your LB will be up.

Communication matters in team fights because that's what you're supposed to do in team fights, I'm not going to make up excuses for this game's pvp mode, especially when cheating/class balance is where it's at, because of some arbitrary line drawn about "fairness."

Do you even read? I am not saying anything like that. What in your mind made my sentence sound to you like it should be removed or nerfed for that matter.
All I am saying is that voice has a big advantage against non voice users.

I can't for the life of me figure out why people would root for lack of playing with friends/FC mates in a game that's literally built around co-op/multiplayer but to each their own.

If you wan't to have fun with friends just play custom matches, but I do agree being able to team up and que with friends would be nice.
But if so make it pre-made vs pre-made and don't mix them with non-pre-made

[Oldschoolegamer38]

someone just showed me this it's even worse then you think.

<name> is a fully automated PvP combat routine. An ACR that finally focuses on the truly important parts of FFXIV, the PvP. The real content. 8-)

An ACR that aims to improve on the basic format of 'use skills on the target'. Automatically taking into account important details like target HP, their buffs, surrounding targets, how many of your allies are targeting a person, and whether or not they're in execute range.

Also featuring many quality of life features like smart targeting, a hotbar that makes it so you no longer need to fight the ACR to get skills in, a counter that shows you the number of people currently targeting you, and making usage of addons like Argus to draw lines to your healers that turns red if they're out of line of sight.

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Its fully reactional and basically you don't have to do anything anymore. just move around with your character the rest is done perfectly for you.

Why redact? Are you afraid that you would get busted using it as it seems you have been doing...Nice way of trying to cover you butt

[Oldschoolegamer38]

So quick chat should be nerfed then yeah? No coordination because that's a skill? No target macro either to help your team burst because that would be unfair. Can't have the LB status because saying LB at 90% is essentially the same as giving a timer for when your LB will be up.

Communication matters in team fights because that's what you're supposed to do in team fights, I'm not going to make up excuses for this game's pvp mode, especially when cheating/class balance is where it's at, because of some arbitrary line drawn about "fairness."

If you want to limit premades to Casual instead of ranked, I'd at least understand (it'd still be stupid). But saying that because people can talk to each other when the current list of issues in pvp are:

1. Win Trading
2. Bots/Scripting
3. Busted Classes
4. People queuing up together anyways
5. Lack of specific quick chat options to allow better team coordination that 90% of other pvp games provide.

comes off as fear mongering for no reason.

People act like you will somehow get stomped less and that it's an all or nothing concept, but there's plenty of ways to balance this out as games like League have shown.

To think that "lack of communication is a feature not a bug" is, in my opinion, a daft take. But I can tell that's not going to change peoples minds.

I can't for the life of me figure out why people would root for lack of playing with friends/FC mates in a game that's literally built around co-op/multiplayer but to each their own.

the win trading. bot/scripts are running rampant now. when folks are getting polyed out of a primal rend even before the animation spinup that is a problem.

[XgungraveX]

there have been a couple of times when I was going to kill a target and I hit them for 0!! and they just sprinted away. I know their guard was down and it should have been a kill.

[KageTokage]

I think the biggest problem presently is that CCing someone immediately after they trigger seemingly any ability results in it being put on cooldown without doing anything.

I think they need to adjust the timing of PvP abilities to ensure that their effects go through no matter what to prevent add-ons from exploiting this fact, because it's getting pretty stupid when they can interrupt basically anything that's considered problematic enough to warrant it.

[Oldschoolegamer38]

Why do u guys even open this useless threads, they would rather remove ranked before slapping an anti cheat on it, 50% of the community mods their game for various normal things pvp on the other hand is literally fotm and to be forgotten in a month lol

that's a lie!!! more like you do not know the % of how many ppl use mods or addons so stop with that....

[Wolffriend]

I don't know if it would be considered cheating, but I had a strong suspicion tonight that someone (or someones) was fishing for the rest of their team in a couple of matches. No real proof, but the counter would get to 9/10 and suddenly someone withdraws. Then it happens again, and again, before the match finally starts. And I've started noticing that sometimes the same folks are on the same team together, yaa if it's my team, boo if it's not.

[KageTokage]

I don't know if it would be considered cheating, but I had a strong suspicion tonight that someone (or someones) was fishing for the rest of their team in a couple of matches. No real proof, but the counter would get to 9/10 and suddenly someone withdraws. Then it happens again, and again, before the match finally starts. And I've started noticing that sometimes the same folks are on the same team together, yaa if it's my team, boo if it's not.

If people can draw information about what instance they're being queued into for roulettes via add-ons, it wouldn't surprise me if who they're being queued with is also available somehow.

In which case, yeah, that would be cheating.

[FALCSMASH]

Is it possible to segregate console players from PCheater players? Competitive play is more enjoyable when you are not at a disadvantage. The rampant cheating for PC players is frustrating for console players. We cannot downloads overlays, bots etc.. It is possible in other games to turn off match making in crossplay. Please add that feature.

[gioroggia]

Hi. I read a lot about cheating/modding in here, but I really can't tell whether that is a serious issue or it's an overblown reaction and almost nobody is using it.

So how did y'all get this feeling/info that people are cheating everywhere?