New hrothgar hairstyles are really bad.

[SturmChurro]

It's still work only they should be doing and that they need to do. It's not something that's optional; either they do it or they admit these races are meant to forever be incomplete. Our feedback so far has been clear, and proper character customization should have become a priority by now. Because other, far less used and less impactful aspects of gameplay have been categorized as a "priority" above fixing their stuff.

I don't disagree that hrothgar (and viera) should be a higher priority, but I just don't believe they have any intentions to do so anytime soon. At this point, from the tone of the previous quote, hrothgar will most likely be doing without hairstyles until the earliest next expansion. The compromise is at least eventually hrothgar might get some quality hairs, though, admittedly, I am skeptical on how they will look or what they will be.

That's what I think the disconnect is with the community and SE. They likely consider hrothgar and viera as complete. I posted about this a couple weeks ago. To them, any updates to these races are just a bonus, and might play a role in why they are such a low priority.

[Otter_McTobbs]

At the very least, job gear should always have working hats. They made them work for WAR and RPR, dunno why they just say nope to BRD or RDM, jobs that are far more iconic for their hats.

Dragoons lvl 90 helmet also work but I would like to see the job hats happen since the new hairstyles hide the ears anyway.

[Midareyukki]

I don't disagree that hrothgar (and viera) should be a higher priority, but I just don't believe they have any intentions to do so anytime soon. At this point, from the tone of the previous quote, hrothgar will most likely be doing without hairstyles until the earliest next expansion. The compromise is at least eventually hrothgar might get some quality hairs, though, admittedly, I am skeptical on how they will look or what they will be.

That's what I think the disconnect is with the community and SE. They likely consider hrothgar and viera as complete. I posted about this a couple weeks ago. To them, any updates to these races are just a bonus, and might play a role in why they are such a low priority.

No, but that's what I mean. Sure that may be their outlook but they need to start listening to the people that actually engage with that content.

If that's the compromise, then I'd rather sit and wait for their next MMO.

[Otter_McTobbs]

No, but that's what I mean. Sure that may be their outlook but they need to start listening to the people that actually engage with that content.

If that's the compromise, then I'd rather sit and wait for their next MMO.

I agree with you on that one. Both races need equal treatment like the other ones.

[Denji]

I agree with you on that one. Both races need equal treatment like the other ones.

it really is off-putting to hear that they care more about other races. like, not even lying about it either. just straight up... we don't care as much.

why even have separate races at that point. you're just torturing people. :/

[Midareyukki]

it really is off-putting to hear that they care more about other races. like, not even lying about it either. just straight up... we don't care as much.

why even have separate races at that point. you're just torturing people. :/

Pretty much my sentiment. I'd rather wait and see what else SE has in store for a future MMO and see if the races there are better designed and appealing. And then I'll completely ditch FF14 because it just feels soulless.

Great story, cool gameplay (at times). But when it comes to me feeling integrated into the game, feeling welcomed into the community and the content itself, it's lacking. And if I were a new player and I saw this much tug of war between the devs and the playerbase, I'd stay the hell away. Like many people likely are.

So, really? I asked this before and I'll ask again: Why are we here? Why include a race that no one but Yoshida (allegedly) asked for? If this is what we're going to get?

Also, I don't really subscribe to the idea they think these races are "fine". Not only does it go against our feedback for three years now (seriously, Square, nut up por favor), it really sounds asinine. So you have all these races, Au Ra having been included post ARR... and this is the best they got? Truly? I feel like the more we normalize that idea, the more they think it's fine.

Then again, I'm guessing "asinine" design is what we're going for lately, isn't it?

[ArtyTheHrothgar]

At this stage, my fear is they're going to focus all their attention on PVP & the housing issue... I can just hear it now "There are other priorities, Hrothgars need to wait even longer". Anyone would think SE would have released a statement and gathered plenty of feedback by now.

I'm worried about the topic because the only remaining post on the Japanese side of the forum has very few comments.
(70-80 vs 1610+ here)
We didn't get clear communication either or a form clearly telling us what options were on the table.

If a community manager comes by, could they let us know how the feedback is going or if more specific things/feedbacks are expected ?

Thank you.

[Pip_Chick]

I'm worried about the topic because the only remaining post on the Japanese side of the forum has very few comments.
(70-80 vs 1610+ here)
We didn't get clear communication either or a form clearly telling us what options were on the table.

If a community manager comes by, could they let us know how the feedback is going or if more specific things/feedbacks are expected ?

Thank you.

I think that the community manager came here only to deflect the situation and feed us hope that we will be listened to. When in reality they don't care and threw a translation in with the addition of gathering feedback in order to shut us up. Why wouldn't they come back and at least say if our feedback was taken or as you said ask for more specific stuff? We are as in the dark as before, we only have a translation with no action or confirmation now.

[Pip_Chick]

I might be the only one on this one, but I would be willing to wait until 7.0 if they came out and ask if we would be ok with us waiting for them to completely remake the models with customisation in mind. In this hypothetical scenario, we will get the data from our characters (Hrothgar) transferred into a general Midlander model, but given with the patch of 6.9 (maybe through the Moogle mail) a phial of fantasia, this will be given to everyone that has purchased Shadowbringers (cause only those have access to Hrothgar). So when 7.0 drops we will be able to turn the fantasia into our new revamped Hrothgar models.

This is a very drastic measure that would probably not happen, but I am curious if it would come to it and they see this as a better alternative. What would be your response, would you be ok with this?

[Raskbuck]

I might be the only one on this one, but I would be willing to wait until 7.0 if they came out and ask if we would be ok with us waiting for them to completely remake the models with customisation in mind. In this hypothetical scenario, we will get the data from our characters (Hrothgar) transferred into a general Midlander model, but given with the patch of 6.9 (maybe through the Moogle mail) a phial of fantasia, this will be given to everyone that has purchased Shadowbringers (cause only those have access to Hrothgar). So when 7.0 drops we will be able to turn the fantasia into our new revamped Hrothgar models.

This is a very drastic measure that would probably not happen, but I am curious if it would come to it and they see this as a better alternative. What would be your response, would you be ok with this?

I'd be okay with waiting for 7.0 for a fully revamped race that addresses the core issues; namely the lack of hats and earless hairstyles. Maybe even fix the right leg on our sprint animation, since it looks like it's skipping a frame (or maybe it's just me).

I'd even be willing to switch back to Miqo'te today, if it meant we will get a better race in the future. But we all know this isn't going to happen. At most, they will throw a few scraps here and there while pampering the other races.