Some words of encouragement for climbers.

[SeiyaSoiya]

1. The system is designed for you to be able to climb your way up to Crystal tier quite easily, it achieves so with a combination of not allowing you to drop a tier and giving you extra stars with win streaks
2. A 50% win rate will not stagnate you, it will climb you very fast, a 30% win rate even can let you climb, those people who made it to crystal day 2 had a 70% winrate, which is absolutely unreasonable for most players
3. You might get sucky teammates in many matches, those are matches you are meant to lose, as even professional league of legends players can only attain a 70% win rate on a smurf account in bronze, it's the nature of team based pvp games.
4. If you approach these "loss tax" games with the intent to play as well as you can, and manage a close victory, you basically cheated yourself out of having to lose a game, which adds up in the end.
5. Player skill is largely irrelevant since the game is a lot more based on team comp rng, teammates rng and rng in general
6. Lastly, don't give up, it might take you 250 wins to reach crystal, but you will reach it nonetheless

[YukikoKurosawa]

I've been Platinum 4 0 stars for 5 days straight. Highest I got was Platinum 2. It's incredibly tiresome.

[Tobias_Azuryon]

Appreciate the words of encouragement but yeah like the other poster here said it can be extremely tedious/tiring to constantly deal with an onslaught of bad matchups and onesided fights when you start to make progress in the ranks if you don't want to just abandon the job you like to play the 3-5 meta ones.

[Amelimie]

Point 5. Its rng, skill doesn't come into it if you keep getting bad comps. So its possible you could be best player in world and be stuck in bronze!

[Khiry]

I've been Platinum 4 0 stars for 5 days straight. Highest I got was Platinum 2. It's incredibly tiresome.

You and I are in the exact same boat at the exact same progress.

I have 157 win and stuck in Platinum 4 Zero Stars. The matching seems to be purposely pairing me with flawed teams and seeing people with 41-60ish wins make it to Crystal is aggravating!

[GayRobot]

Point 5. Its rng, skill doesn't come into it if you keep getting bad comps. So its possible you could be best player in world and be stuck in bronze!

No, this is not possible over a reasonable number of games. There will be speed bumps along the way, that's inevitable in any game, but the system hands out more stars than it takes away—so you need to be considerably worse than the people around you to fail to rank up.

[gioroggia]

1. The system is designed for you to be able to climb your way up to Crystal tier quite easily, it achieves so with a combination of not allowing you to drop a tier and giving you extra stars with win streaks
2. A 50% win rate will not stagnate you, it will climb you very fast, a 30% win rate even can let you climb, those people who made it to crystal day 2 had a 70% winrate, which is absolutely unreasonable for most players
3. You might get sucky teammates in many matches, those are matches you are meant to lose, as even professional league of legends players can only attain a 70% win rate on a smurf account in bronze, it's the nature of team based pvp games.
4. If you approach these "loss tax" games with the intent to play as well as you can, and manage a close victory, you basically cheated yourself out of having to lose a game, which adds up in the end.
5. Player skill is largely irrelevant since the game is a lot more based on team comp rng, teammates rng and rng in general
6. Lastly, don't give up, it might take you 250 wins to reach crystal, but you will reach it nonetheless

I agree, but knowledge of all these things can make it even more frustrating. I have a 50-55% win rate (I track through achievement data and so I have to discount casual matches), but I have been stuck in gold for a good while. Why? Well, because I hardly ever get three or more wins in a row, and since I never get to Gold 4 0 starts, I never benefit from the "free loss" system. It is frustrating. Just yesterday I was Gold 1 with one win away from Plat 4, then I had a 8-10 loss streak. Well, if that had happened one game later, it would have had 0 impact on my rank. But it didn't, so there I was right back to Gold 3/4.

Meanwhile, folks with worse win/loss ratio and fewer games are diamond. RNG, RNG, RNG.

[ReiganCross]

You and I are in the exact same boat at the exact same progress.

I have 157 win and stuck in Platinum 4 Zero Stars. The matching seems to be purposely pairing me with flawed teams and seeing people with 41-60ish wins make it to Crystal is aggravating!

Those numbers pretty much imply an over 90% win-rate... I'd almost be tempted to report someone like that. There is no level of adequate skill that puts you in that win-rate unless you're throwing some pretty shady add-ons into the mix. And I'm saying that knowing full well that WAR, WHM and RDM are pretty strong even after patch. You can be good, but you can't steamroll like that...

[gioroggia]

No, this is not possible over a reasonable number of games. There will be speed bumps along the way, that's inevitable in any game, but the system hands out more stars than it takes away—so you need to be considerably worse than the people around you to fail to rank up.

It depends on what you consider a reasonable amount of games. 100? 500? 2000?

In the short to medium term, it is all in the distribution of your win-losses. Consider two people with 50% wins over the course of ten matches with the following distributions:

Player 1: w-w-w-w-w-l-l-l-l-l
Player 2: w-l-w-l-w-l-w-w-l-l

Player one advanced 3 stars. Plater two advanced 0 stars. Both won the same number of games, but due to RNG on matchmaking, one is stuck and the other is moving forward. Now consider the second example. Two players suffered a 5-loss streak, but one did that in Gold 1 (2 stars) and the other on Plat 4 (1 star):

Player 1: Gold 1 (1), Gold 1 (0), Gold 2 (3), Gold 2 (2), Gold 2 (1)
Player 2: Plat 4 (0), Plat 4 (0), Plat 4 (0), Plat 4 (0), Plat 4 (0)

Both players had a 5-loss strak, yet while one lost 5 stars worth of rank, the other lost 1 start only.

Of course, on average, like you said after a very large number of matches, things will tend to even out for two players of similar skill. But if you consider, for instance, 200 matches, there can be very large, luck-based differences.

[GayRobot]

It depends on what you consider a reasonable amount of games. 100? 500? 2000?
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Of course, on average, like you said after a very large number of matches, things will tend to even out for two players of similar skill. But if you consider, for instance, 200 matches, there can be very large, luck-based differences.

I hit Crystal after ~150 wins while watching my friends get in after 70—including a spirit-crushing loss streak at Diamond 1—so I'm intimately familiar with this feeling, LMAO. The current system makes the problem even worse, since variance gets higher and higher over time as more players find a lucky streak past a derank border.

Still, even in a working system, it usually takes a pretty long time to accurately assess skill with team sizes this large, and some people probably need some extra rewards to blunt that for themselves.