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    I'm not sure how testing would prevent player from abusing the system and/or cheating. But also taking that aside as someone who took some time to look into those testing procedures in other games like say MtG... Let me be frank no matter how large a test group would be you'll always be under prepared for what will actually happen.

    Yes you're right. Devs were out of touch. They did give playerbase way too much credit of trust. They should have treated every single one of us as potential ToS violator and install spyware onto our PC/consoles. That would have solved everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaquan View Post
    I'm not sure how testing would prevent player from abusing the system and/or cheating. But also taking that aside as someone who took some time to look into those testing procedures in other games like say MtG... Let me be frank no matter how large a test group would be you'll always be under prepared for what will actually happen.

    Yes you're right. Devs were out of touch. They did give playerbase way too much credit of trust. They should have treated every single one of us as potential ToS violator and install spyware onto our PC/consoles. That would have solved everything.
    It doesn't take a large player base to test Silence, or WHM bug abuse or RDM 2vs1 capabilities. Have fun blaming yourself, not my cup of tea sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bureda View Post
    It doesn't take a large player base to test Silence, or WHM bug abuse or RDM 2vs1 capabilities. Have fun blaming yourself, not my cup of tea sorry.
    Right the balance is so easy to achieve as proven by any PvP centric game from Fighting games to Mobas... Oh wait, those keep struggling with that as well and their sole focus is on PvP. And even they don't release daily patches and fixes to address the balance wher it takes anywhere between week to months before they adress the issue. As for the threatening with sanctions... Are you drawing the connection between poor balance and the portion of playerbase inability to behave? To play the game without resorting to cheating or griefing other players?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaquan View Post
    Right the balance is so easy to achieve as proven by any PvP centric game from Fighting games to Mobas... Oh wait, those keep struggling with that as well and their sole focus is on PvP. And even they don't release daily patches and fixes to address the balance wher it takes anywhere between week to months before they adress the issue. As for the threatening with sanctions... Are you drawing the connection between poor balance and the portion of playerbase inability to behave? To play the game without resorting to cheating or griefing other players?
    Tell me you've never played a other PVP game without telling me you've never played another PVP game. Other story based mmos hotfix so called competitive and moba games straight up disable certain broken champions or bugged champions. Just, stop. The fact of the matter is this new revamp has been handled poorly and there's a myriad of ways if could have been handled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bureda View Post
    Tell me you've never played a other PVP game without telling me you've played another PVP game. Other story based mmos hotfix so called competitive and moba games straight up disable certain broken champions or bugged champions. Just, stop. The fact of the matter is this new revamp has been handled poorly and there's a myriad of ways if could have been handled.
    *cough* Viego interactions *cough*
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    OP's passive aggressive tone in literally every comment they've made is EXACTLY why I don't want chat in CC. He'll stop every minute to explain why his team is bad, and why they should demote, and why he's carrying the team, and why SE sucks, etc, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qeilos View Post
    *cough* Viego interactions *cough*
    Hahah, even Zeri, she was hotfixed and now is up for a slight rework as a brand new champ. PvP (especially ranked/competitive) is very demanding in terms of patching, the community is not used to that. I hope to see an improvement in that for the enjoyment of all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ixon View Post
    OP's passive aggressive tone in literally every comment they've made is EXACTLY why I don't want chat in CC. He'll stop every minute to explain why his team is bad, and why they should demote, and why he's carrying the team, and why SE sucks, etc, etc.
    I'm pretty sure you've used more in game chat commands than I. Nice try though. I'm sorry I'm calling out your care bear dev team and their out of touch priorities but their behaviour is just not on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bureda View Post
    I'm pretty sure you've used more in game chat commands than I. Nice try though. I'm sorry I'm calling out your care bear dev team and their out of touch priorities but their behaviour is just not on.
    I at least double weave my chat command and still play the game. Yes the dev team is care bear, but I don't care about you or anyone else's feelings. I care more about the seconds wasted in a game that lasts 5min. Not to mention that by the time you get your point across, IF it get's across, the enemy has already wiped the rest of your team trying to play the game. Just play the game.
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    Last edited by Ixon; 04-27-2022 at 12:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaquan View Post
    I'm not sure how testing would prevent player from abusing the system and/or cheating. But also taking that aside as someone who took some time to look into those testing procedures in other games like say MtG... Let me be frank no matter how large a test group would be you'll always be under prepared for what will actually happen.

    Yes you're right. Devs were out of touch. They did give playerbase way too much credit of trust. They should have treated every single one of us as potential ToS violator and install spyware onto our PC/consoles. That would have solved everything.
    Then might as well take pvp out of the game if they cant stop cheating in pvp .
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