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    Because Stormblood lacks two signs of good writing: impactful and believable character development and coherent storytelling.

    Heavensward sets up Ishgard as its main focus and tells a story about its history and its people. We are on a journey with three characters that grow to be compelling (and eventually fan favourites) as we learn more about them or how events are shaping them in a different way (Alphinaud, in this case). We are thrown into events that are bigger than us and we are essentially just strangers. Yet, Ishgard "adopts" us, in more than one meaning, and you feel like you are helping because you want to, not because you have to since this is what the plot demands.

    Stormblood sets up Ala Mhigo as the main focus, but the narrative quickly betrays its premises when the focus abruptly shifts to Doma. The result is that it feels like we are experiencing two different stories that should have been in different expansions. Nothing really gets the focus the story would have deserved, which results in an overall weaker storytelling. Our companions are not as strong as the ones we had in Heavensward. Lyse is overall a weak and superficial character, just like her motivations throughout the story. We are once again thrown into events that are bigger than us and we are again strangers in another land. This time, however, it doesn't feel like we are really playing a meaningful part or that we want to. It feels like we are just kind of there, enjoying the ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rewd View Post
    Because Stormblood lacks two signs of good writing: impactful and believable character development and coherent storytelling.

    Heavensward sets up Ishgard as its main focus and tells a story about its history and its people. We are on a journey with three characters that grow to be compelling (and eventually fan favourites) as we learn more about them or how events are shaping them in a different way (Alphinaud, in this case). We are thrown into events that are bigger than us and we are essentially just strangers. Yet, Ishgard "adopts" us, in more than one meaning, and you feel like you are helping because you want to, not because you have to since this is what the plot demands.

    Stormblood sets up Ala Mhigo as the main focus, but the narrative quickly betrays its premises when the focus abruptly shifts to Doma. The result is that it feels like we are experiencing two different stories that should have been in different expansions. Nothing really gets the focus the story would have deserved, which results in an overall weaker storytelling. Our companions are not as strong as the ones we had in Heavensward. Lyse is overall a weak and superficial character, just like her motivations throughout the story. We are once again thrown into events that are bigger than us and we are again strangers in another land. This time, however, it doesn't feel like we are really playing a meaningful part or that we want to. It feels like we are just kind of there, enjoying the ride.
    Yeah Lyse is just a Mary Sue like the all powerful Ryne. Thank god the developers decided to leave her out of the new expansion.
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    drama same reason why Shadowbringers and Endwalker are also considered good expansions, even thought the latter made a poor job with nations that were pillars of the game (Garlemald).
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    Heavensward had a world-focused story and Stormblood had a character-focused story. Different people will prefer one over the other.

    I do agree that stormblood is a lot better than people make it out to be story-wise.

    Gameplay wise it was easily the best expansion for class design and content (not including eureka), but most of the people complaining about SB weren't here for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rewd View Post
    Because Stormblood lacks two signs of good writing: impactful and believable character development and coherent storytelling.

    Heavensward sets up Ishgard as its main focus and tells a story about its history and its people. We are on a journey with three characters that grow to be compelling (and eventually fan favourites) as we learn more about them or how events are shaping them in a different way (Alphinaud, in this case). We are thrown into events that are bigger than us and we are essentially just strangers. Yet, Ishgard "adopts" us, in more than one meaning, and you feel like you are helping because you want to, not because you have to since this is what the plot demands.

    Stormblood sets up Ala Mhigo as the main focus, but the narrative quickly betrays its premises when the focus abruptly shifts to Doma. The result is that it feels like we are experiencing two different stories that should have been in different expansions. Nothing really gets the focus the story would have deserved, which results in an overall weaker storytelling. Our companions are not as strong as the ones we had in Heavensward. Lyse is overall a weak and superficial character, just like her motivations throughout the story. We are once again thrown into events that are bigger than us and we are again strangers in another land. This time, however, it doesn't feel like we are really playing a meaningful part or that we want to. It feels like we are just kind of there, enjoying the ride.
    I felt the same way when we just stumbled into solving Ishgard's problems. The whole reason why the story made us go for that was for that end goal of getting Ishgard back on the Eorzean Alliance in order to properly fight the Empire. Stormblood was the same in the reason of us wanting to liberate Ala Mhigo and The Far East so that we could get more standing power for when we take the fight to the Imperials. Which paid off with the battle of Ghimlyt Dark where we had all of our allies band together to fight Varis and his troops.

    Also I hate how people just absolutely brush off that we had characters such as Fordola, Yotsuyu, Gosetsu, Yugiri, flippin Hien (who in my personal opinion is one of the coolest characters in this entire game) and love him or hate him the introduction of Zenos. They all had their moments, and even Lyse grows up a bit after she started to interact with Hien and realized what it takes to lead. But nope gotta have that Stormblood bad, Heavensward good thing with this jaded community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rewd View Post
    Because Stormblood lacks two signs of good writing: impactful and believable character development and coherent storytelling.

    Heavensward sets up Ishgard as its main focus and tells a story about its history and its people. We are on a journey with three characters that grow to be compelling (and eventually fan favourites) as we learn more about them or how events are shaping them in a different way (Alphinaud, in this case). We are thrown into events that are bigger than us and we are essentially just strangers. Yet, Ishgard "adopts" us, in more than one meaning, and you feel like you are helping because you want to, not because you have to since this is what the plot demands.

    Stormblood sets up Ala Mhigo as the main focus, but the narrative quickly betrays its premises when the focus abruptly shifts to Doma. The result is that it feels like we are experiencing two different stories that should have been in different expansions. Nothing really gets the focus the story would have deserved, which results in an overall weaker storytelling. Our companions are not as strong as the ones we had in Heavensward. Lyse is overall a weak and superficial character, just like her motivations throughout the story. We are once again thrown into events that are bigger than us and we are again strangers in another land. This time, however, it doesn't feel like we are really playing a meaningful part or that we want to. It feels like we are just kind of there, enjoying the ride.
    Not to mention a stupidly overpowered villain.
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