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    Syln's Avatar
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    Saya Finwel
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    Omega
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Momo_Kozuki View Post
    The point I want to make here is offering suggestions that will add motivations for players to grind, instead of just old-school "grind a lot for little rewards" that discourage players from grinding. Of course, the game is cool at not asking players to not too focused on grinding and let them taking break, but I think it is reasonable to offer solutions for people who actually want to grind, while players who take break can still chime in occasionally and get some well-earned rewards for their contributions toward the liveliness of the content.



    Back to the topic, after you get 28k Crystals from the series milestone and reach lv30, it will require 20k EXP for a mere 1k crystals. It doesn't feel like a grind many players want to do since too much efforts for little rewards.


    For anyone interests in getting Hellhound stuffs or perhaps the reskinned Virtu gear for whatever reason, this becomes super grindy as these items require a large amount of crystal (10k crystal/hellhound weapon). In case you just want to buy all current one-time items (job actions and barding/minion), it requires 30,500 crystals, so you will have to grind 60k EXP to get them all.



    I feel like challenge logs should update to provide trophy crystals, so that people will have motivation to pvp for weekly goals. Perhaps 1,000 per "participation x times" goal and 1,500 (or 2,000) per "win x times" goal.



    Daily frontline should net you some crystal too. Prefer 500 crystals per pop.



    Additionally, allowing to trade wolf marks into Crystals. 20k mark should yield you around 5k crystal (4:1 ratio).


    Also, to prevent players hoarding crystals and buy off new rewards of next season day one, next series should use a different type of currency and convert the outdated one into wolf mark, not so different from how tomestone works.


    In addition, series milestones should have crystal rewards scaled properly. If I grind 2,000 exp for 1,000 crystal, I believe grinding 5,000 exp should give more crystals sound reasonable enough.
    Agree with everything you said, as it stand now the grind asked is absurd and feel unrewarding (20k xp for 1000 crystals, who thought it was ok ?).
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Syln View Post
    Agree with everything you said, as it stand now the grind asked is absurd and feel unrewarding (20k xp for 1000 crystals, who thought it was ok ?).
    They seem to really like to implement massive grinds initially to stretch out the rewards they have. "Respecting your time".
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    Piush Stumbleine
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    Shiva
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    They seem to really like to implement massive grinds initially to stretch out the rewards they have. "Respecting your time".
    Respecting time in the context of the quote doesn't mean that everything in the game is obtained in 5 minutes. Completely different point
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syln View Post
    Agree with everything you said, as it stand now the grind asked is absurd and feel unrewarding (20k xp for 1000 crystals, who thought it was ok ?).
    Or – most likely – you can wait until next season when progression resets and you're back to only needing 2000 EXP for 1000 crystals. Put the extra work in if you want everything now, but I don't think it's all going away immediately.

    If nothing else, they did say the rewards would still be purchasable next season, so we'll have that much time to see what happens, what is permanent and whether or not they bring out another whole set of gear to spend crystals on. I don't think there's any need to be grinding the high levels for crystals at this point unless you're desperately trying to acquire something that can't wait.
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